Bat-wielding would-be robber beaten with a sword

migueldiaz · 5th September 2009, 03:35 PM

From AZCentral.com:

Bat-wielding would-be robber beaten with a sword

A man apparently tried to rob an acquaintance by beating him with a baseball bat and was seriously hurt when the victim fought back with a sword, authorities said.

The would-be robber remains hospitalized Friday. Police have not released names.

Authorities said the incident Thursday began after the two men went to a check-cashing store together and then to the victim's home near Indian School Road and 47th Avenue.

"The victim allowed the suspect to come into his home and cool off" from the heat, Phoenix Police spokesman Luis Samudio said

The visitor, identified only as a 39-year-old man, pulled out a bat and struck his 30-year-old acquaintance on the shoulder, Samudio said. Authorities suspect the attacker planned to rob the victim.

After a struggle, the victim ran into a bedroom and armed himself with a sword, police said. The victim reportedly struck the suspect with the sword several times.

"It's the suspect that suffered the serious injuries," Samudio said.

The suspect fled the home and ended up at an apartment complex near the Black Canyon Freeway and West Camelback Road about four miles away. A resident at the complex called 911 after seeing a person bleeding, Samudio said.

The suspect is expected to be released in the next couple of days, police said. He faces charges of armed robbery and aggravated assault.
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Related article: Would-be Robber Ends Up in Sword Fight; He Only Had a Bat...Needless to Say, He Lost

Anandalal N. · 5th September 2009, 03:37 PM

I guess that settles the question between modern versus traditional weapons.

Freddy · 5th September 2009, 05:07 PM

I'm a police officer in the city of Gent for already 27 years. I didn't actually see what follows, but I was able to read the report. It really happened.

Some years ago, a man tried to rob a nightshop. He entered the shop and threatened the owner with a knife or so. The owner, who originated from India, drew a sword to defend himself. He succeeded in chasing the robber away.

Some time later, a man was found bleeding heavily from the hand. Upon further investigation he seemed to have lost a thumb

In the skermish, the shop owner had severed the man's thumb with his sword.

The police was called to the hospital where the robber confessed what happened. He also said which shop he robbed. The doctors asked to police to go to the shop in order to retrieve the lost thumb. So they did.

But....the shop owner had had enough for one night and had closed shop. The police saw the robber's thumb lying on the floor of the shop, but weren't able to get in. It was visible through the shop window. They had to break in to get the thumb and rush it to the hospital. There an attempt was made to reattach the thumb to the man's hand. If this succeeded I don't know. But it's a good story, no ?

Rick · 5th September 2009, 05:29 PM

" Is that a bat or are you just glad to see me ? "

Seriously, pretty tough to hide a bat on one's person .

KuKulzA28 · 5th September 2009, 05:34 PM

Wow... so you guys with big ethnographic weapon collections should be all set!

Next thing I hear, god forbid...

New Robbery Stopped by Old Methods
Antique Collector's Wife Uses "Assegai" Spear and "Moro Kris" Sword to Finish off a Burglar!

fearn · 5th September 2009, 05:52 PM

Hi Kukulz,

Actually, Cold Steel published a story about an African shopkeeper killing the leader of a gang of shotgun wielding robbers with his spear. He even survived the resulting melee, and fully recovered thereafter.

Personally, I'd say that antique collections are nice, but very sharp blades that are readily available in an emergency are even better, especially if one's housemates don't like guns. Knowing how to use them well enough to defend oneself is better still.

I think the other point in this story is that, in all cases, the robbers ran away, sometimes miles away. While we tend to talk about the lethality of various weapons, these scuffles would most likely be the kinds of sword fights we get into. A couple of blows, someone gets injured badly enough to attempt to get away, and then the police get involved. Could be worse.

Thanks for posting this Migueldiaz.

Best,

F

Tim Simmons · 5th September 2009, 05:45 PM

I think there may be one thing that we can learn from these events and that is how silly the idea is of having a forefinger over the top of what appears small Indian grips. I accept the small stature of the mountian peoples, as small as the classic idea of "pygmy" having small grips. Like those hilts seen on weapons from the Indian/Bhurma border hills. However the other Indian weapon often opulent can surely only be for child soldiers and princes.

5th September 2009, 03:35 PM	#1
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	Bat-wielding would-be robber beaten with a sword From AZCentral.com: Bat-wielding would-be robber beaten with a sword A man apparently tried to rob an acquaintance by beating him with a baseball bat and was seriously hurt when the victim fought back with a sword, authorities said. The would-be robber remains hospitalized Friday. Police have not released names. Authorities said the incident Thursday began after the two men went to a check-cashing store together and then to the victim's home near Indian School Road and 47th Avenue. "The victim allowed the suspect to come into his home and cool off" from the heat, Phoenix Police spokesman Luis Samudio said The visitor, identified only as a 39-year-old man, pulled out a bat and struck his 30-year-old acquaintance on the shoulder, Samudio said. Authorities suspect the attacker planned to rob the victim. After a struggle, the victim ran into a bedroom and armed himself with a sword, police said. The victim reportedly struck the suspect with the sword several times. "It's the suspect that suffered the serious injuries," Samudio said. The suspect fled the home and ended up at an apartment complex near the Black Canyon Freeway and West Camelback Road about four miles away. A resident at the complex called 911 after seeing a person bleeding, Samudio said. The suspect is expected to be released in the next couple of days, police said. He faces charges of armed robbery and aggravated assault. ---- Related article: Would-be Robber Ends Up in Sword Fight; He Only Had a Bat...Needless to Say, He Lost

5th September 2009, 03:37 PM	#2
Anandalal N. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 84	I guess that settles the question between modern versus traditional weapons.

5th September 2009, 05:07 PM	#3
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	I'm a police officer in the city of Gent for already 27 years. I didn't actually see what follows, but I was able to read the report. It really happened. Some years ago, a man tried to rob a nightshop. He entered the shop and threatened the owner with a knife or so. The owner, who originated from India, drew a sword to defend himself. He succeeded in chasing the robber away. Some time later, a man was found bleeding heavily from the hand. Upon further investigation he seemed to have lost a thumb In the skermish, the shop owner had severed the man's thumb with his sword. The police was called to the hospital where the robber confessed what happened. He also said which shop he robbed. The doctors asked to police to go to the shop in order to retrieve the lost thumb. So they did. But....the shop owner had had enough for one night and had closed shop. The police saw the robber's thumb lying on the floor of the shop, but weren't able to get in. It was visible through the shop window. They had to break in to get the thumb and rush it to the hospital. There an attempt was made to reattach the thumb to the man's hand. If this succeeded I don't know. But it's a good story, no ?

5th September 2009, 05:29 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	" Is that a bat or are you just glad to see me ? " Seriously, pretty tough to hide a bat on one's person .

5th September 2009, 05:34 PM	#5
KuKulzA28 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: between work and sleep Posts: 731	Wow... so you guys with big ethnographic weapon collections should be all set! Next thing I hear, god forbid... New Robbery Stopped by Old Methods Antique Collector's Wife Uses "Assegai" Spear and "Moro Kris" Sword to Finish off a Burglar!

5th September 2009, 05:52 PM	#6
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Hi Kukulz, Actually, Cold Steel published a story about an African shopkeeper killing the leader of a gang of shotgun wielding robbers with his spear. He even survived the resulting melee, and fully recovered thereafter. Personally, I'd say that antique collections are nice, but very sharp blades that are readily available in an emergency are even better, especially if one's housemates don't like guns. Knowing how to use them well enough to defend oneself is better still. I think the other point in this story is that, in all cases, the robbers ran away, sometimes miles away. While we tend to talk about the lethality of various weapons, these scuffles would most likely be the kinds of sword fights we get into. A couple of blows, someone gets injured badly enough to attempt to get away, and then the police get involved. Could be worse. Thanks for posting this Migueldiaz. Best, F

5th September 2009, 05:45 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	I think there may be one thing that we can learn from these events and that is how silly the idea is of having a forefinger over the top of what appears small Indian grips. I accept the small stature of the mountian peoples, as small as the classic idea of "pygmy" having small grips. Like those hilts seen on weapons from the Indian/Bhurma border hills. However the other Indian weapon often opulent can surely only be for child soldiers and princes.