Another longshot: editions of Capo Ferro's Gran Simulacro

10thRoyal · 2nd May 2023, 03:51 PM

Sorry for the thread a week rate but I'm a bit stuck on this. I recently came upon 36 plates from Capo Ferro's Gran Simulacro. Hardly any provinonce was provided with it. Only non-original writing on it is on the front cover of the falling apart binding with some unintelligible writing. I was only able to make out the name of the engraver and "1630".

I am looking for information on the various editions of this text that are known. Wiktenauer has the only real information I've been able to source regarding the editions short of buying the books mentioned on the wiktenauer page. Based on the wiktenauer, there was a 1629 edition that removed all pages that did not include the engraved plates and moved portions of the text below those engraved plates. It is my guess that this is what I have. Does anyone have any further information? I've attached several of the pages I have as well as the watermark found on them (though I doubt this carries any great meaning).

midelburgo · 2nd May 2023, 10:48 PM

There is the Jared Kirby 2004 facsimil. Probaby in the intro mentions that.
I remember I wanted to buy it, when it became out of print. And now it is a bit overprized at second hand market.

10thRoyal · 3rd May 2023, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by midelburgo

There is the Jared Kirby 2004 facsimil. Probaby in the intro mentions that.
I remember I wanted to buy it, when it became out of print. And now it is a bit overprized at second hand market.

Ah yes, another research text that costs more than the item you are researching.

Interested Party · 4th May 2023, 04:47 PM

10th Royal, Nice find. How do you store and conserve a text that old?

Has anyone looked at the Jared Kirby 2021 publication of the "Gran Simulacuro"? If so, is it the same material?

10thRoyal · 4th May 2023, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Interested Party

10th Royal, Nice find. How do you store and conserve a text that old?

I'm actually still trying to figure that out myself so any info would be appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Interested Party

Has anyone looked at the Jared Kirby 2021 publication of the "Gran Simulacuro"? If so, is it the same material?

After a very helpful conversation with Michael Chidester, the text and format does match the 1629 edition. This edition does not include about half the book, removing all pages that don't have text that describes a specific plate. The Kirby editions looks to be the same format as the 1610 format of Gran Simulacro with the text describing a plate being on the page opposite of the plate describe. On the 1629 and 1652 editions, these descriptive texts are moved directly below the image but the text is more or less the same. So the text matches Kirby, minus the half of the text that isn't paired with specific plates.

Bob A · 5th May 2023, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Interested Party

10th Royal, Nice find. How do you store and conserve a text that old?

Has anyone looked at the Jared Kirby 2021 publication of the "Gran Simulacuro"? If so, is it the same material?

Brodart has archival supplies for libraries. You might also contact the Library of Congress for specifics. If it was mine, I'd probably keep the individual sheets in polyester sleeves, as it looks as though they've been dismounted.

http://www.shopbrodart.com/archival-supplies/

midelburgo · 5th May 2023, 09:13 PM

Old paper made from rags is much more stable than modern papers, specially those from second half of XIXth century, and war periods. Some acidic inks could give problems, but that would be visible by now. Enclosing in plastic could be problematic if you live in a humid area and mold developes. Probably the worse problem could be silverfish insects (lepisma), because they can ravage single leafs and it is better to avoid sunlight. Leather bindings are a different matter, but you do not have that.

2nd May 2023, 03:51 PM	#1
10thRoyal Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 78	Another longshot: editions of Capo Ferro's Gran Simulacro Sorry for the thread a week rate but I'm a bit stuck on this. I recently came upon 36 plates from Capo Ferro's Gran Simulacro. Hardly any provinonce was provided with it. Only non-original writing on it is on the front cover of the falling apart binding with some unintelligible writing. I was only able to make out the name of the engraver and "1630". I am looking for information on the various editions of this text that are known. Wiktenauer has the only real information I've been able to source regarding the editions short of buying the books mentioned on the wiktenauer page. Based on the wiktenauer, there was a 1629 edition that removed all pages that did not include the engraved plates and moved portions of the text below those engraved plates. It is my guess that this is what I have. Does anyone have any further information? I've attached several of the pages I have as well as the watermark found on them (though I doubt this carries any great meaning). Attached Images

2nd May 2023, 10:48 PM	#2
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 257	There is the Jared Kirby 2004 facsimil. Probaby in the intro mentions that. I remember I wanted to buy it, when it became out of print. And now it is a bit overprized at second hand market.

4th May 2023, 04:47 PM	#4
Interested Party Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Eastern Sierra Posts: 467	10th Royal, Nice find. How do you store and conserve a text that old? Has anyone looked at the Jared Kirby 2021 publication of the "Gran Simulacuro"? If so, is it the same material?

5th May 2023, 09:13 PM	#7
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 257	Old paper made from rags is much more stable than modern papers, specially those from second half of XIXth century, and war periods. Some acidic inks could give problems, but that would be visible by now. Enclosing in plastic could be problematic if you live in a humid area and mold developes. Probably the worse problem could be silverfish insects (lepisma), because they can ravage single leafs and it is better to avoid sunlight. Leather bindings are a different matter, but you do not have that.