Celebes (Bugis) or Sumatra ??

simatua · 15th April 2007, 09:43 AM

In a Dutch website; www.indoshop.nl i was reading a part about kerises.

I saw a text under a photo of a ukiran, explaining that this was from a bugis keris.
I told the owner of the website that this was more likely a Sumatra ukiran.
Althoug i know sometimes this kind of form of can be found on a bugis keris

am i correct?

BluErf · 15th April 2007, 02:56 PM

From what I can see of the blade, which shows heavy Javanese influence, and looking at the hilt, the keris is probably South Sumatran. The motifs on the hilt and the form of the hilt suggests that it is from an area between Palembang and the Minang heartlands in the central highlands. I would consider this a 'Malay' keris rather than a Bugis keris.

Alam Shah · 16th April 2007, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simatua

... I saw a text under a photo of a ukiran, explaining that this was from a bugis keris.
I told the owner of the website that this was more likely a Sumatra ukiran.
Although i know sometimes this kind of form of can be found on a bugis keris

am i correct?

Simatua, you are right. It's more Sumatran than Bugis.
Imo, nothing Bugis about the blade and the hilt.

I agree with BluErf's opinion on the probable origin of the hilt.

Newsteel · 19th April 2007, 07:25 AM

The carving on the arm of the pekaka (armband) looks it is not 'typical Minang'. More Palembang influence I thought, but I have to agree with BluErf also.

15th April 2007, 09:43 AM	#1
simatua Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 69	Celebes (Bugis) or Sumatra ?? In a Dutch website; www.indoshop.nl i was reading a part about kerises. I saw a text under a photo of a ukiran, explaining that this was from a bugis keris. I told the owner of the website that this was more likely a Sumatra ukiran. Althoug i know sometimes this kind of form of can be found on a bugis keris am i correct? Attached Images

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Newsteel Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 132	The carving on the arm of the pekaka (armband) looks it is not 'typical Minang'. More Palembang influence I thought, but I have to agree with BluErf also. Last edited by Newsteel; 19th April 2007 at 07:53 AM.

15th April 2007, 02:56 PM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	From what I can see of the blade, which shows heavy Javanese influence, and looking at the hilt, the keris is probably South Sumatran. The motifs on the hilt and the form of the hilt suggests that it is from an area between Palembang and the Minang heartlands in the central highlands. I would consider this a 'Malay' keris rather than a Bugis keris.