Kampilan

[Jim McDougall]

This kampilan I have had for many years, but honestly this field is something quite unfamiliar to me. It does not have the profiled blade tip seen on so many of these, and I wonder if those of you well versed in these might offer some classification and possibly provenance ideas.

[Battara]

Hard to tell. Nice that it has a scabbard and mansala cloth. It once had a metal "eye" on each side of the hilt.

It could possibly be Maranao based on the okir on the hilt, but Iranian hilts also use this okir though they typically don't have "eyes".

[Jim McDougall]

Thank you Jose! Please say more on the 'okir'.
What is Mansala cloth? purpose or significance.

I was going to use the 'search' as usual, but wanted to get details specific to this one. Why the blade is different without the profiling?

[kai]

Nice one, Jim!

There are a number of tip configurations. This plain one is perfectly legit.

The mansala is usually tied to the gripping area and is used to secure the grip of the main hand in battle.

Based on the large holes in the crosspiece, I believe it's fair to assume that it once held the usual metal staple, probably a single one only.

BTW, what's the blade length?

Regards,
Kai

[Jim McDougall]

Thank you very much Kai. Its strange, in all these years I have studied so many weapon forms, but have inadvertently overlooked these and others in these regions. In a quest to try to get examples of each various type, I did not get into enough study on many particulars. '

After seeing the years of remarkable detail you guys here have always shared on these kinds of weapons, I wanted to take the opportunity to have your insights on this one rather than trying to compile info from online sources.

I dont have these weapons at hand, just these photos, so do not unfortunately have dimensions. It seems these are noted to be quite long but this I believe was around 30" blade, not the larger blades of up to 40" or more.
Thank you very much for the encouraging insights.

Now I'm curious about the large staple (now absent) but I did read that some of these had chain mail attached to the guard.

I understand that these were a combat weapon and contrary to other edged weapon forms used in these regions, did not serve as tools as required as well.

[Edster]

Jim,

If your tiles are 12 X 12 I scaled the blade from the photo to estimate about 21 in. long. My scale didn't have marks, so the estimate is not precise.

Best,
Ed

[kai]

You're welcome, Jim!

I dont have these weapons at hand, just these photos, so do not unfortunately have dimensions. It seems these are noted to be quite long but this I believe was around 30" blade, not the larger blades of up to 40" or more.

About 30" is typical. Though examples are known, I'd consider 40" to be oversize.

Now I'm curious about the large staple (now absent) but I did read that some of these had chain mail attached to the guard.

Very few examples seem have to survived - I'd love to see pics of any extant pieces! I dare to posit that this wasn't common.

I understand that these were a combat weapon and contrary to other edged weapon forms used in these regions, did not serve as tools as required as well.

Yes, the kamp has dedicated combat and ceremonial functions (as have lots of other blade types from the archipelago). Some other do have hybrid functions though.

Regards,
Kai