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10th June 2020, 10:40 AM
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Another translation request of a stamp on a pulwar blade
Since I got such a quick and expert response on my last post here is another head scratcher.
It concerns a pulwar with a well made blade, which I believe was made in northern India. Besides some imitation european blade markings it also has a stamp at the forte, containing some writing in Arabic script which I cannot make out at all. I have seen quite a few blades with these kinds of stamps, the most famous probably being the Sword of Dara Shikoh at the V&A. I do not think that I have seen two identical ones. |
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10th June 2020, 11:42 AM
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Wow, what a beauty!
And the blade is fantastic. It seems to have the characteristic "Indian ricasso." Pretty sure made in Northern India. 
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10th June 2020, 02:48 PM
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WOW!!! is right. Beautiful blade and hilt.
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11th June 2020, 12:35 AM
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Can you send a closer shot of the inscription?
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11th June 2020, 06:05 AM
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Okay, with a whole lot of fiddling I think I managed to trick my cell phone camera into being a bit less crappy for a second, but I don't know if it is enough
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12th June 2020, 02:00 AM
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Don’t think it’s Arabic/Persian. Can’t help with Devanagari or any Indian alphabets I’m afraid
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23rd June 2020, 06:49 PM
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Hi,
Here is one of mine, a Tulwar with possible Afghan connections, the pinned hilt. Again an inscription that has so far defied identification possibly because it may be just be nonsensical. Regards, Norman. |
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23rd June 2020, 08:50 PM
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Just a side comment: as per Elgood, pinned handles might have originated in S.India/Deccan, and NW India was chock full of them.
You are absolutely correct to be careful about the Afghani origin: pinned handle is perhaps the weakest attributative sign. IMHO, only the “pulwar” handle and the system of blade fullers can provide decent evidence. |
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23rd June 2020, 09:30 PM
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Thank you very much Oliver!
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24th June 2020, 01:33 PM
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Hi,
The scabbard fittings might have a bearing on the origin? Regards, Norman. |
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