Point of Geographic Origin?

A. G. Maisey · 27th March 2010, 02:35 AM

Here are a couple of keris that are outside my area of knowledge.

Would anybody care to give an opinion on geographic point of origin?

hanggoye · 27th March 2010, 02:38 AM

B-i think keris pandai saras from kelantan..nice blade actually..

BluErf · 27th March 2010, 03:31 AM

A is a Sumatran blade, like those we commonly see from South Sumatra, Palembang area. The sheath and hilt does not look Palembang or even the typical "Straits Bugis" forms. could be from a more inland area, closer to Minang heartlands.

B's hilt and sheath looks Terengganu to me. The pendoko is unusual. Frankly, a little bit weird. The blade looks like N. Peninsula for sure, but the greneng and janggut form is something unfamiliar to me.

BluErf · 27th March 2010, 03:33 AM

The way the gandik is recessed into the form of the blade and the steep taper of the sor-soran area (to borrow Javanese terms) would suggest an area of origin North of the Malaysian borders.

A. G. Maisey · 28th March 2010, 12:49 AM

Thanks for your comments, Kai Wee.

Yes, I agree, a first impression of that straight blade would certainly be Palembang --- until you hold it in your hand, when you find that there is significant difference in percieved weight and balance (tanting) and differences in the material used from a Palembang blade.

Here are a couple more pics of the two keris in their wrongkos.

Does anybody else have an opinion they would like to share?

I've had these two keris for a while, and I do have a little bit of info on them, but as I've said, this is outside my area, and I really would appreciate the opinions of people who know more about keris of this style than I do.

hanggoye · 31st March 2010, 05:45 PM

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27th March 2010, 02:35 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,886	Point of Geographic Origin? Here are a couple of keris that are outside my area of knowledge. Would anybody care to give an opinion on geographic point of origin? Attached Images

28th March 2010, 12:49 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,886	Thanks for your comments, Kai Wee. Yes, I agree, a first impression of that straight blade would certainly be Palembang --- until you hold it in your hand, when you find that there is significant difference in percieved weight and balance (tanting) and differences in the material used from a Palembang blade. Here are a couple more pics of the two keris in their wrongkos. Does anybody else have an opinion they would like to share? I've had these two keris for a while, and I do have a little bit of info on them, but as I've said, this is outside my area, and I really would appreciate the opinions of people who know more about keris of this style than I do. Attached Images

27th March 2010, 02:38 AM	#2
hanggoye Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 34	B-i think keris pandai saras from kelantan..nice blade actually..

27th March 2010, 03:31 AM	#3
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	A is a Sumatran blade, like those we commonly see from South Sumatra, Palembang area. The sheath and hilt does not look Palembang or even the typical "Straits Bugis" forms. could be from a more inland area, closer to Minang heartlands. B's hilt and sheath looks Terengganu to me. The pendoko is unusual. Frankly, a little bit weird. The blade looks like N. Peninsula for sure, but the greneng and janggut form is something unfamiliar to me.

27th March 2010, 03:33 AM	#4
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	The way the gandik is recessed into the form of the blade and the steep taper of the sor-soran area (to borrow Javanese terms) would suggest an area of origin North of the Malaysian borders.

31st March 2010, 05:45 PM	#6
hanggoye Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 34	I TRY TO SENT YOU PM, BUT IT SAID THAT YOUR INBOX IS FULL FROM RECEIVING ANY PM..CAN YOU PM ME YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS SO ITS CAN MAKE IT MORE EASIER TO GET TO YOU REGARDS