Persian shamshir-translation requested if possible

DaveS · 27th February 2014, 10:47 PM

Here is a Persian shamshir with a rather long gold inscription. The handle is of the Syrian type with either gold or brass twisted wire and gold? rivets. 32 inch blade of the Kara-Taban (patches of black) type wootz, said to be one of the most esteemed type of wootz. Unfortunatly no scabbard. Any translation would be greatly appreciated............Dave.

DaveS · 27th February 2014, 10:55 PM

More pictures of inscription

A.alnakkas · 28th February 2014, 12:25 AM

nice piece. Will be hard to translate like this.. need better images.

It appears that the flower shaped cartouche (later, common Syrian addition) covers an older one? such a shame.

AJ1356 · 28th February 2014, 01:04 AM

Dave,
I can't help with the translation, since it is in Arabic. However I noticed something, in the picture of the floral cartouche, it seems that it is later work and is covering another much older cartouche, and the color of the text seems the same as the newer cartouche. Is that what you see as well?

DaveS · 28th February 2014, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

nice piece. Will be hard to translate like this.. need better images.

It appears that the flower shaped cartouche (later, common Syrian addition) covers an older one? such a shame.

Boy!!!. I've owned this sword for almost twenty years and until it was pointed out, I didn't realize that this cartouche covered another earlier one. What can I do to get better images of this inscription?..........Dave.

27th February 2014, 10:47 PM	#1
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	Persian shamshir-translation requested if possible Here is a Persian shamshir with a rather long gold inscription. The handle is of the Syrian type with either gold or brass twisted wire and gold? rivets. 32 inch blade of the Kara-Taban (patches of black) type wootz, said to be one of the most esteemed type of wootz. Unfortunatly no scabbard. Any translation would be greatly appreciated............Dave. Attached Images

27th February 2014, 10:55 PM	#2
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	More pictures More pictures of inscription Attached Images

28th February 2014, 12:25 AM	#3
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	nice piece. Will be hard to translate like this.. need better images. It appears that the flower shaped cartouche (later, common Syrian addition) covers an older one? such a shame.

28th February 2014, 01:04 AM	#4
AJ1356 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nashville Posts: 314	Dave, I can't help with the translation, since it is in Arabic. However I noticed something, in the picture of the floral cartouche, it seems that it is later work and is covering another much older cartouche, and the color of the text seems the same as the newer cartouche. Is that what you see as well?