Indo-Afghani Weapons?

The Double D · 1st August 2006, 07:12 AM

Can anyone identify the source of this display of weapons?

Can any one identify the weapons?

The Double D · 2nd August 2006, 07:26 AM

Doesn't anyone know what these knives and swords are?

spiral · 2nd August 2006, 10:53 AM

I thought the original questian was to find the source of the display.

The source of each weapons is easier , Although its many & varied & includes, Yemen, Afghanistan, England, Nepal , Sudan & I am sure other middle eastern to eastern countries as well.

Spiral

Mart · 2nd August 2006, 12:06 PM

I see
Bayonet - knife Remington 1913 with scabbard
Turkoman kard

Berkley · 2nd August 2006, 01:58 PM

Taking this in the spirit of a television game show question, I'll try my hand at a rough answer.

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Can anyone identify the source of this display of weapons?

Although I haven't been able to locate this exact illustration, it is strongly reminiscent of the "collection of Oriental armour and weapons formed by Lord Egerton of Tatton, and now hung in the armoury, Tatton Park", Egerton, p.160 et seq.. Of course, it could as easily be from any number of Victorian-era collections. Where did you find the illustration?

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Can any one identify the weapons?

Generically, from top left to bottom right, with apologies in advance to the experts for mis-identifications and incorrect terminology:

[Probably Indian] dhal shield and powder flask;
shamsher;
[probably Afghan] powder flask and matchlock jezail;
Afghan salwar yataghan (Khyber knife);
British 1871 Martini-Henry rifle, Mk 3 bayonet with scabbard, and what appears to be a misfired cartrdge with identifying label attached;
Sudanese arm dagger;
yataghan;
kard;
early type of Nepalese kukri;
jambiya.

Do I win the convertible?

inveterate · 2nd August 2006, 05:04 PM

Berk, I dont know if you win the convertable but you certainly get to play again next week! Rod

The Double D · 2nd August 2006, 06:45 PM

Actually I didn't intend it to be a contest, but if it works...

When I posted the picture I though it was a display from some museum.

I now know that it a studio picture take from a 1970's era issue of Guns and Ammo Magazine. I still don't know what prompted the picture.

I was hoping to learn what the swords and knives where as a learning process. My limited knowledge of these tells me that they are swords and knives from the Indo-Arab part of the world. Thanks for their names.

The only ones I do know are the Martini and its bayonet. Martini Henry MK IV, Pattern C and Pattern 1887 Sword Bayonet Mk III. 10 round packet of rolled foil case 577/450 Martini Henry ammo most likely Mk III since all earliery Mk's were to be broken up.

The rifle although not exclusivley used in India, it is where the majority of them were sent for use by colonial troops.

My education continues. Thanks guys.

Valjhun · 2nd August 2006, 08:28 PM

The yataghan is a montenegro/bosnia piece. Probably made in sarajevo between 1840-1870.

1st August 2006, 07:12 AM	#1
The Double D Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: On the banks of Cut Bank Creek, Montana Posts: 189	Indo-Afghani Weapons? Can anyone identify the source of this display of weapons? Can any one identify the weapons?

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The Double D Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: On the banks of Cut Bank Creek, Montana Posts: 189	Actually I didn't intend it to be a contest, but if it works... When I posted the picture I though it was a display from some museum. I now know that it a studio picture take from a 1970's era issue of Guns and Ammo Magazine. I still don't know what prompted the picture. I was hoping to learn what the swords and knives where as a learning process. My limited knowledge of these tells me that they are swords and knives from the Indo-Arab part of the world. Thanks for their names. The only ones I do know are the Martini and its bayonet. Martini Henry MK IV, Pattern C and Pattern 1887 Sword Bayonet Mk III. 10 round packet of rolled foil case 577/450 Martini Henry ammo most likely Mk III since all earliery Mk's were to be broken up. The rifle although not exclusivley used in India, it is where the majority of them were sent for use by colonial troops. My education continues. Thanks guys. Last edited by The Double D; 2nd August 2006 at 07:27 PM.

2nd August 2006, 07:26 AM	#2
The Double D Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: On the banks of Cut Bank Creek, Montana Posts: 189	Doesn't anyone know what these knives and swords are?

2nd August 2006, 10:53 AM	#3
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	I thought the original questian was to find the source of the display. The source of each weapons is easier , Although its many & varied & includes, Yemen, Afghanistan, England, Nepal , Sudan & I am sure other middle eastern to eastern countries as well. Spiral

2nd August 2006, 12:06 PM	#4
Mart Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 8	I see Bayonet - knife Remington 1913 with scabbard Turkoman kard

2nd August 2006, 05:04 PM	#6
inveterate Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 58	Berk, I dont know if you win the convertable but you certainly get to play again next week! Rod

2nd August 2006, 08:28 PM	#8
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	The yataghan is a montenegro/bosnia piece. Probably made in sarajevo between 1840-1870.