FLISSA IN PI MUSEUMS?

carlos · 7th September 2005, 04:30 PM

HI EVERYBODY!!
IN THE MUSEUM VICTOR BALAGUER (SPAIN) I FOUND SEVERAL WEAPONS FROM PHILLIPINES. MY SURPRISE WAS I SAW A FLISSA IN A GROUP OF DAGGERS FROM PI!!, IS THIS POSSIBLE?
ANOTHERS TIMES I HAVE SEEN MOROCCO DAGGERS LIKE THE PICTURE IN BOARDS WITH PHILLIPINE WEAPONS.
THANKS
THE TRIRD PICTURE IS FROM THE SPANISH ARMY MUSEUM IN MADRID. THANKS TO ENGAR BY THE PICTURE.

carlos · 7th September 2005, 04:43 PM

SORRY, I FORGET THE PICTURES!!

Lew · 7th September 2005, 04:54 PM

Hi Carlos

I just think the curator or whoever made a mistake by grouping them together. Sometimes even the museum folk screw up!

Lew

Justin · 8th September 2005, 02:48 AM

Dont forget that Spain and Morrocco are seperated only by a mile or two of water.Not only that ,but Spain has had a lot of Moorish immigrants ,I believe they were driven out at one point but the connection is there.

Raja Muda · 8th September 2005, 03:06 AM

Spain was ruled by the Arab Umayyad caliphate in Cordoba, before the state fragmented into smaller sultanates, only to be swallowed by the nascent powers of a united Castile and Leon. The last of the Arab rulers of Seville, Abu Abdillah (Boabdil) was driven to the Alpujjaras and later into exile during the time of Ferdinand and Isabella. And of course, westerners refer to the Arabs from the Maghreb as Moors. So it's not with some irony that when they landed in the PI, they found people sharing Boabdil's faith, hence the term Moro (correct me if I'm wrong, that's how I understood it).
So I think while proper display rules might not allow weapons from two distinct cultures be displayed or attributed to the same category, the poor curator probably mixed up one Moro with another

Lew · 8th September 2005, 03:31 AM

MORO,MORROCO they look and sound similar maybe the curator had one too many glasses of wine that day

Lew

7th September 2005, 04:30 PM	#1
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 737	FLISSA IN PI MUSEUMS? HI EVERYBODY!! IN THE MUSEUM VICTOR BALAGUER (SPAIN) I FOUND SEVERAL WEAPONS FROM PHILLIPINES. MY SURPRISE WAS I SAW A FLISSA IN A GROUP OF DAGGERS FROM PI!!, IS THIS POSSIBLE? ANOTHERS TIMES I HAVE SEEN MOROCCO DAGGERS LIKE THE PICTURE IN BOARDS WITH PHILLIPINE WEAPONS. THANKS THE TRIRD PICTURE IS FROM THE SPANISH ARMY MUSEUM IN MADRID. THANKS TO ENGAR BY THE PICTURE.

7th September 2005, 04:43 PM	#2
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 737	SORRY, I FORGET THE PICTURES!! Attached Images

8th September 2005, 03:06 AM	#5
Raja Muda Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 100	Irony with Iron Blades? Spain was ruled by the Arab Umayyad caliphate in Cordoba, before the state fragmented into smaller sultanates, only to be swallowed by the nascent powers of a united Castile and Leon. The last of the Arab rulers of Seville, Abu Abdillah (Boabdil) was driven to the Alpujjaras and later into exile during the time of Ferdinand and Isabella. And of course, westerners refer to the Arabs from the Maghreb as Moors. So it's not with some irony that when they landed in the PI, they found people sharing Boabdil's faith, hence the term Moro (correct me if I'm wrong, that's how I understood it). So I think while proper display rules might not allow weapons from two distinct cultures be displayed or attributed to the same category, the poor curator probably mixed up one Moro with another

7th September 2005, 04:54 PM	#3
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Hi Carlos I just think the curator or whoever made a mistake by grouping them together. Sometimes even the museum folk screw up! Lew

8th September 2005, 02:48 AM	#4
Justin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 175	Dont forget that Spain and Morrocco are seperated only by a mile or two of water.Not only that ,but Spain has had a lot of Moorish immigrants ,I believe they were driven out at one point but the connection is there.

8th September 2005, 03:31 AM	#6
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	MORO,MORROCO they look and sound similar maybe the curator had one too many glasses of wine that day Lew