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Old 22nd June 2010, 02:47 PM   #1
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Default Sassanian swords

I have any questions about sassanian swords.

I know a lot of pictures of splendid ful metal scabards and hilts as this





I would like to know what blade had this swords. Single, or double edge? I have found only one picture of sassanian blade - it is probabaly double edge blade with middle point - see here



Are there sassanian swords with single edge blade like this contemporary chines blades? /I think Tang dynasty blades/

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Old 23rd June 2010, 08:32 AM   #2
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This illustration is of one of the best known examples of these Sassanian straight swords, and I believe is considered Dailamite of 6th-7th c. These were elite infantry of regions of northern Iran. The scabbard is in a 'feathered' motif associated with the varanga, one the mythical Iranian birds such as the Simorgh, very griffin like.

It is my understanding that blades of these swords that have been found are in too compromised condition to determine dynamics of use, but the type of grips seen on them seem to suggest single edged blades. The pistol type grip with indentations for index finger, another larger for remaining fingers and downward angle for more forceful strike suggest this type use.

While these swords are thought to have developed from Parthian predecessors, the earlier straight blade swords of China certainly must be considered in influence as well.
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Old 23rd June 2010, 09:11 AM   #3
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It is good note, thank you very much

I would like to try make that sword, and this Tang blades are very beautiful for this type of weapon.

It is interesting, that grip in case this gold plated sword from first picture is upside down - it has reverse tilt and finger indentations are upside down with respect to hang-up elements of scabard.
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Old 24th June 2010, 01:40 AM   #4
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Actually it would seem that the sword is upside down by conventional standards, however it is believed this was a 'quick draw' type position, where the sword was withdrawn edge up. Caucasian shashkas and Imperial Russian swords were worn in this manner, and I cannot offhand think of the other instances where swords were worn edge upward (Im sure others will note).

I believe the Metropolitan Museum in New York has one of these, and might furnish details which might be more helpful for purposes of reconstructing a blade for one of these...interesting project and I hope you will keep us posted.
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Old 24th June 2010, 03:39 AM   #5
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Appearances would indicate the same type of mount for this Afghan Sabre :

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=Mazar+Sharif
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Old 24th June 2010, 07:20 PM   #6
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Japan, most obviously. European and Afrasian cultures seem to often have edge-up carry as an occasional option, often seeming idiosincratic, but IMHO an ancient an long enduring but just rarely poplular custom. The Germanic saex was often/usually worn edge-upwards. Traditionally in Europe Military commanders would often have their men dress or arm after their own (the commander's) idiosyncrasies, especially as to weapon selection, sharpening, loading details, etc.
Edge-up carrying keeps the edge from wearing against the sheath and getting dulled.
I salute your cutling ambitions, Sidney.

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