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20th April 2022, 06:05 PM | #1 |
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A caucasian beibut dagger ?
Hello, this is my last acquisition,
a small dagger with a kindjal shape hilt. Nice filigree scabbard with stones/turquoises and hardstone hilt Too fancy ?? A tourist piece for you ??. Maybe made for a lady or for a child ?? I hesitate between oriental or caucasian origin ?? |
20th April 2022, 09:28 PM | #2 |
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This is a souvenir made in Armenia for tourists.
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21st April 2022, 10:07 AM | #3 |
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Hello,
Thank you for the armenian origin ! For the armenian tourist pieces with stones and filigree, Maybe have you a picture of similar pieces ?? On the web I just found these ugly "daggers" , clearly not the same work ... For "my" beibut-kindjal, the blade seems not that bad, not just flat. There is a light central fuller, that's what told me the seller and what we guess on the picture. I will post better pictures when I will receive it... Hoping I am not all wrong... |
21st April 2022, 07:03 PM | #4 |
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Just as well it may be from Georgia or from the Russia- controlled North Caucasus. All of these places are chock-full of souvenir workshops producing such kinjals 24/7 and each one has a stamping press and/or a bunch of after-school girls applying filigree of local design. The only way to pinpoint the origin is by looking at the language of inscription, but there is none on your example.
Souvenir item , likely very new, including last couple of years. |
29th April 2022, 01:18 PM | #5 |
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Hello, I just received it,
The blade has a large single fuller, Not a weapon but not a basic souvenir I will post other pictures Maybe made by school grandma's.... |
29th April 2022, 01:24 PM | #6 |
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Difficult to find his bebut internet brother
But I get it !! Said to be end of 19th/early 20th century... |
30th April 2022, 01:24 AM | #7 |
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The Oriental-Arms example was long ago and with better understanding years later, it now might be considered souvenir class.
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30th April 2022, 04:32 AM | #8 |
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Moreover, the Oriental_Arms' and yours are not the same dagger.
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