Hunting hanger information sought

Kmaddock · 9th September 2016, 08:56 PM

Hi
I just purchased the below hunting hanger at a local auction in rural Ireland

Blade and handle are very solid with no movement at all, feels very much an original purposeful weapon

The blade was very rusty and covered in grime but I cleaned all the active rust off and am pleased with the condition underneath

Overall blade length of 21 inches with fuller on both sides

I think there is the remenants of a passau wolf mark on the blade but this may be wishful thinking, I would welcome any opinions

The handle is in very good condition and the brass is nicely toned

There seems to the heads of three angels or cherubs on the shell guard and a heart with wings which I take to be the sacred heart which is obviously a Christian symbol.

Pictures are poor as it is pouring rain and no natural light but I can try again tomorrow if necessary.

My big question would be could anyone give an approximate age on this hanger

Much appreciated

I have amended title as per information received below

Ken

machinist · 9th September 2016, 09:25 PM

Fagan arms just sold one very much like this. Can I link to the sold sword mods?

Kmaddock · 9th September 2016, 09:36 PM

Wow, that was impressive Machinist

Very similar indeed right down to the cherubs

Price is a lot different though from what I paid

I now have a search route to find out more, I was looking under German hunting hanger.

I will report back with any findings

Thanks a bunch

Ken

Rick · 10th September 2016, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machinist

Fagan arms just sold one very much like this. Can I link to the sold sword mods?

When you link, the picture will eventually disappear.

Better to save the picture/s and upload to the database for permanency.

Kmaddock · 10th September 2016, 03:22 PM

Hi All
As per information received I have pasted in the image referred to in Machinist post.
Would anyone have a copy of either the texts referred to in Fagan Arms descriptor of items sold.

The likeness of the two hangers in very strong but I would love more information if possible.

Many thanks

Ken

M ELEY · 11th September 2016, 12:31 AM

As stated, an early English hanger circa 1690-1720. The king's head and crown are actually the mark of the Wundes smiths of Germany, who supplied fine blades to the English at this time. Every one of these I've seen marked have that king's head.
Mark

M ELEY · 11th September 2016, 12:35 AM

Here's mine, a variant style of the same type of hanger. Although very popular with naval, they were also used by infantry at the time. Note the references I mention in that past thread, if you wish more info and pics of these cool hangers...
Also note in that earlier thread the excellent info from Jim McDougall and Dmitri.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17233

9th September 2016, 08:56 PM	#1
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	British naval officers 1700's hanger Hi I just purchased the below hunting hanger at a local auction in rural Ireland Blade and handle are very solid with no movement at all, feels very much an original purposeful weapon The blade was very rusty and covered in grime but I cleaned all the active rust off and am pleased with the condition underneath Overall blade length of 21 inches with fuller on both sides I think there is the remenants of a passau wolf mark on the blade but this may be wishful thinking, I would welcome any opinions The handle is in very good condition and the brass is nicely toned There seems to the heads of three angels or cherubs on the shell guard and a heart with wings which I take to be the sacred heart which is obviously a Christian symbol. Pictures are poor as it is pouring rain and no natural light but I can try again tomorrow if necessary. My big question would be could anyone give an approximate age on this hanger Much appreciated I have amended title as per information received below Ken Attached Images Last edited by Kmaddock; 10th September 2016 at 04:00 PM. Reason: Information received

9th September 2016, 09:25 PM	#2
machinist Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 93	Fagan arms just sold one very much like this. Can I link to the sold sword mods? Attached Images Last edited by machinist; 9th September 2016 at 09:39 PM.

10th September 2016, 03:22 PM	#5
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	Hi All As per information received I have pasted in the image referred to in Machinist post. Would anyone have a copy of either the texts referred to in Fagan Arms descriptor of items sold. The likeness of the two hangers in very strong but I would love more information if possible. Many thanks Ken Attached Images

9th September 2016, 09:36 PM	#3
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	Wow, that was impressive Machinist Very similar indeed right down to the cherubs Price is a lot different though from what I paid I now have a search route to find out more, I was looking under German hunting hanger. I will report back with any findings Thanks a bunch Ken

11th September 2016, 12:31 AM	#6
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,099	As stated, an early English hanger circa 1690-1720. The king's head and crown are actually the mark of the Wundes smiths of Germany, who supplied fine blades to the English at this time. Every one of these I've seen marked have that king's head. Mark

11th September 2016, 12:35 AM	#7
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,099	Here's mine, a variant style of the same type of hanger. Although very popular with naval, they were also used by infantry at the time. Note the references I mention in that past thread, if you wish more info and pics of these cool hangers... Also note in that earlier thread the excellent info from Jim McDougall and Dmitri. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17233