Sword restored

Multumesc · 2nd May 2013, 08:06 PM

We recently restored this sword.What do you think? What are the symbols on the blade and handle guard? Sheath is cow leather.How do I restore sheath?On the sword blade write MANUF ....... KLINGENTHAL ....... 1814. Thank you very much friends.

Multumesc · 2nd May 2013, 08:13 PM

Images 3 and 4 we have put in error. Excuse me.

Multumesc · 2nd May 2013, 08:19 PM

Other pictures with symbols sword.

christek · 5th May 2013, 03:57 PM

Hello Multumesc,

It is my understanding that this is a regulation French infantry hanger of the Napoleonic era. French swords of the 19th century were primarily issued by two major government manufacturers, one being Klingenthal, in the east of France ( the other being Châtellerault in the centre of the country). During the Napoleonic period, regulation swords were also produced by the smaller manufacturer of Versaille, near Paris, which assembled weapons with blades from Klingenthal. Taking the time frame that the spine marking has given us, it could be that this hanger was Versaille built with a Klingenthal blade. I am sorry I cannot really read the spine marking properly, but it should say something along the lines of Klingenthal Novembre 1814 , or Manfre Rle du Klingenthal 1814 or similar.

The symbols you ask about are certainly armoury markings and inspection stamps, I do not know enough about these to comment further, perhaps someone more knowledgeable will discuss them more elaborately.

Kind regards,
Chris

Valjhun · 5th May 2013, 09:36 PM

As Christek said, your sword was indeed made during the napoleonic period in Klingenthal and I mean a 100% Klingenthal piece, as the vast majority of the napoleonic imperial era.

Quite desiderable, I would not mind owing it and if with original scabbard... that is rarely seen.

The poicons on the blade and hilt are Klingenthal insepector marks:

1. B with a star above:
BORSON Etienne, Louis Lieutenant-colonel Blade inspector 1st class and also director of the manufacture d'Etat from 1. august 1814 to 1. september 1815

2. B in imperial laurel wreath:
BICK, Jean-Georges, controlleur from 23 februar 1809 to 1 august 1824

3. The big corsiva B:
BISCH, Joseph, Ambroise, assemblation inspector, at Klingenthal from 23. feb. 1809

4. Big L is for:
LOBSTEIN François, Louis Klingenthal revisor from 15 june 1804

Most certainly from the late 1814, as the engraving on the back says.

Kind regards,

Matej

Multumesc · 6th May 2013, 11:08 AM

Maybe this sword was used in the battle of Waterloo?

2nd May 2013, 08:06 PM	#1
Multumesc Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Romania Posts: 203	Sword restored We recently restored this sword.What do you think? What are the symbols on the blade and handle guard? Sheath is cow leather.How do I restore sheath?On the sword blade write MANUF ....... KLINGENTHAL ....... 1814. Thank you very much friends. Attached Images

2nd May 2013, 08:13 PM	#2
Multumesc Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Romania Posts: 203	Sword restored Images 3 and 4 we have put in error. Excuse me.

2nd May 2013, 08:19 PM	#3
Multumesc Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Romania Posts: 203	Sword restored Other pictures with symbols sword. Attached Images

6th May 2013, 11:08 AM	#6
Multumesc Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Romania Posts: 203	Sword restored Maybe this sword was used in the battle of Waterloo? Attached Images

5th May 2013, 03:57 PM	#4
christek Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 52	Hello Multumesc, It is my understanding that this is a regulation French infantry hanger of the Napoleonic era. French swords of the 19th century were primarily issued by two major government manufacturers, one being Klingenthal, in the east of France ( the other being Châtellerault in the centre of the country). During the Napoleonic period, regulation swords were also produced by the smaller manufacturer of Versaille, near Paris, which assembled weapons with blades from Klingenthal. Taking the time frame that the spine marking has given us, it could be that this hanger was Versaille built with a Klingenthal blade. I am sorry I cannot really read the spine marking properly, but it should say something along the lines of Klingenthal Novembre 1814 , or Manfre Rle du Klingenthal 1814 or similar. The symbols you ask about are certainly armoury markings and inspection stamps, I do not know enough about these to comment further, perhaps someone more knowledgeable will discuss them more elaborately. Kind regards, Chris

5th May 2013, 09:36 PM	#5
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	As Christek said, your sword was indeed made during the napoleonic period in Klingenthal and I mean a 100% Klingenthal piece, as the vast majority of the napoleonic imperial era. Quite desiderable, I would not mind owing it and if with original scabbard... that is rarely seen. The poicons on the blade and hilt are Klingenthal insepector marks: 1. B with a star above: BORSON Etienne, Louis Lieutenant-colonel Blade inspector 1st class and also director of the manufacture d'Etat from 1. august 1814 to 1. september 1815 2. B in imperial laurel wreath: BICK, Jean-Georges, controlleur from 23 februar 1809 to 1 august 1824 3. The big corsiva B: BISCH, Joseph, Ambroise, assemblation inspector, at Klingenthal from 23. feb. 1809 4. Big L is for: LOBSTEIN François, Louis Klingenthal revisor from 15 june 1804 Most certainly from the late 1814, as the engraving on the back says. Kind regards, Matej