Karabela - the nicest you have seen

Valjhun · 10th July 2006, 12:00 AM

I've been offered that karabela (the seller is a aquitance of mine).

Descriptiom (from the seller):
A beautifull set from Bahtiany family - Hungary.
Collar (for attaching the "knightly" mantle) is from silver with gold platings. With 6 sweetwater pearls, 15 emeralds 6ct and 18 rubbies 6ct.
The sword belt is also silver with gold platings. With 6 sweetwater pearls, 15 emeralds 6ct and 18 rubbies 6ct.
Silver engraved spurs.
24 silver buttons with 24 rubbies 3ct. - 19mm
14 silver buttons with 14 rubbies 3ct. - 22mm
13 silver buttons with 13 rubbies 3ct - 26mm

The hilt and the scabbard are silver mounted and gold plated, with 19 rubbies 2,2 ct and 10 emeralds ca. 2ct.

Almost 2kg of silver in this set.

The blade (still waiting for pictures of the blade) bears the inscription "Frincia"

To me seems Polish, however, maybe the crests would tell the difference.

PM me how much you would pay for that.

Any comments?

S.Al-Anizi · 10th July 2006, 12:08 AM

That certainly is a very nice sword. I would think that the price is in grands.

ariel · 10th July 2006, 12:29 AM

It is worth it!!!!!
Am I seeing an eagle on the scabbard?
My guess it is Croatian/Hungarian/Transylvanian rather than Polish: far too rich.

Rather · 10th July 2006, 10:07 AM

I don't think that it is an eagle. To me it looks like the Christian symbol of Pelican in her piety. (photo for reference)
Could be a sword of a Knight of an Order.

Tim Simmons · 10th July 2006, 10:47 AM

Roman Catholic order of the swan? Prussian?

Tim Simmons · 10th July 2006, 11:08 AM

The bird on the chain does look like she is feeding young from her own blood.
I could not get any very good info in a google search "order of the pelican"

10th July 2006, 12:00 AM	#1
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	Karabela - the nicest you have seen I've been offered that karabela (the seller is a aquitance of mine). Descriptiom (from the seller): A beautifull set from Bahtiany family - Hungary. Collar (for attaching the "knightly" mantle) is from silver with gold platings. With 6 sweetwater pearls, 15 emeralds 6ct and 18 rubbies 6ct. The sword belt is also silver with gold platings. With 6 sweetwater pearls, 15 emeralds 6ct and 18 rubbies 6ct. Silver engraved spurs. 24 silver buttons with 24 rubbies 3ct. - 19mm 14 silver buttons with 14 rubbies 3ct. - 22mm 13 silver buttons with 13 rubbies 3ct - 26mm The hilt and the scabbard are silver mounted and gold plated, with 19 rubbies 2,2 ct and 10 emeralds ca. 2ct. Almost 2kg of silver in this set. The blade (still waiting for pictures of the blade) bears the inscription "Frincia" To me seems Polish, however, maybe the crests would tell the difference. PM me how much you would pay for that. Any comments? Attached Images

10th July 2006, 10:07 AM	#4
Rather Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 72	I don't think that it is an eagle. To me it looks like the Christian symbol of Pelican in her piety. (photo for reference) Could be a sword of a Knight of an Order. Attached Images

10th July 2006, 12:08 AM	#2
S.Al-Anizi Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arabia Posts: 278	That certainly is a very nice sword. I would think that the price is in grands.

10th July 2006, 12:29 AM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	It is worth it!!!!! Am I seeing an eagle on the scabbard? My guess it is Croatian/Hungarian/Transylvanian rather than Polish: far too rich.

10th July 2006, 10:47 AM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Roman Catholic order of the swan? Prussian?

10th July 2006, 11:08 AM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	The bird on the chain does look like she is feeding young from her own blood. I could not get any very good info in a google search "order of the pelican"