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This one has very unusual silver dress to the hilt. The way it is applied it almost reminds me of royal garb or something like that. Makes me wonder what the purpose of decking this handle out in this manner. Also unusual is the silver gangya. Looking forward to thoughts and comments on this piece.
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Some additional pictures of this interesting piece.
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I think we would need to speak with the person who initiated this ornamentation before we could have any understanding of why it was done.
My guess is that the ornamentation was commissioned by somebody who really did wish to be noticed. |
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IMO this kris originates from Central Sumatra (Riau) rather from Minang (type of scabbard, bahari blade). The ganja was replaced, is it really made from silver?
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Thank you for the feedback. Yes, the ganja is silver or a silver alloy. It is not steel. |
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The hulu bling looks very "Michael Jacksony" to me; mirrored sunglasses, pseudo-royal accoutrements. I'd bet my bottom dollar (even if the odds are around 2-5) on its having been gussied up the way it is now at some time after the "Thriller" album came out, but certainly not before. The hulu really distracted me from the wilah, and that interesting silver ganja.
I'd really like to know: is that proper? I don't know if I'd be more clear asking, "Is that cricket"? I've seen kujang with pamor of Cu and Ni, but I'd never expect to see a keris with such pamor; it would be too "out there", too avant garde, and..."It's just not done". How about a brass or copper ganja? Would such a thing be within the limits of what's acceptable? |
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![]() And yes, unusual dress for sure, at least the hilt. My general feeling is that this keris and hilt got a bit of a re-design somewhere along the way. I don't think this ivory hilt was originally intended to have all this bling. The pieces used seem to be adapted from other things like pieces of jewelry. It's possible someone inherited this keris in bad condition without a gonjo and wanted to honour it in a big way. So silver replacement gonjo and bling added to the hilt. I don't think that piece of silver is meant to be seen as a sash btw. This is a form of Jawa Demam hilt, the "feverish Javanese", and the bit of silver is covering the stylized arm that is across the belly of the figure giving the impression of a person doubled over holding their stomach. Frankly i would have preferred this hilt without all the glitz. Or at least with less of it. But then, it wasn't made for me. ![]() Last edited by David; 1st August 2020 at 08:39 PM. |
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Not my culture, but I agree from a Westerner's point of view.
'Less is more.' To quote the noted architect Mies Vanderoh. |
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