Origin silver pendok

Paul B. · 29th January 2018, 02:19 PM

This is a very nice silver pendok but where does it come from?
Possibly a bunton Banyumas from Northern Java or rather West-Java (Ceribon?).
The size is a bit larger than a standard Javanese pendok ( 38,5 cm) en smaller diameter ( < 4 cm).
Frontally a floral desgin.
The back has a special engravings, inspired by seawaves?

Paul B. · 29th January 2018, 02:34 PM

Forgotten pics added.

A. G. Maisey · 29th January 2018, 08:11 PM

That is a very nice pendok.

The rear face looks like a more or less standard lung-lungan motif, but the front face has a motif I have not seen and is not contained in current Central Javanese pattern books. When I get a chance I'll see if I can find it as a batik motif.

I am not prepared to guess where it might have been made.

Paul B. · 30th January 2018, 07:46 AM

Sorry Alan, you mixed the sides up.
Floral = front and batik looking pattern = rear side.
The slighlty sloping rounded shape tells me so. It reminds me of a previous discussion about a pendok.
Anyway, anybody else having a clue about the destination? Would like to match it with a kris in a proper way.

A. G. Maisey · 30th January 2018, 10:22 AM

Yes Paul, in the hand it is possible to see the offset of the top of a pendok, in your photos I cannot see it, however, front or back is immaterial, what is material is that it is unusual and very nice.

Bjorn · 31st January 2018, 07:27 PM

It seems like a rather unique piece. Like Alan, the pattern reminds me of batik. To me, it looks like a type of sisik (scale) pattern.

The attached 2 photos show modern-day batik cloth with sisik patterns. One is advertised as sisik bunga (flower sisik) and the other as sisik penangi (rainbow sisik).

As it's not a standard pattern for a pendok, I would say it could have been made anywhere in Java.

Paul B. · 4th February 2018, 10:26 AM

This Ceribon kris has a sizewise ( tall and slender) proper gandar which could fit the pendok without having to adapt it but actually not a needing accessory as it has a nice Timoho pelet would from itself.

Marcokeris · 4th February 2018, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul B.

This Ceribon kris has a sizewise ( tall and slender) proper gandar which could fit the pendok without having to adapt it but actually not a needing accessory as it has a nice Timoho pelet would from itself.

very nice dress

Jean · 6th February 2018, 06:24 PM

Considering the size and design of this nice pendok, I would agree that it probably originates from the Java North Coast (Cirebon area).
Regards

29th January 2018, 02:19 PM	#1
Paul B. Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 205	Origin silver pendok This is a very nice silver pendok but where does it come from? Possibly a bunton Banyumas from Northern Java or rather West-Java (Ceribon?). The size is a bit larger than a standard Javanese pendok ( 38,5 cm) en smaller diameter ( < 4 cm). Frontally a floral desgin. The back has a special engravings, inspired by seawaves?

29th January 2018, 02:34 PM	#2
Paul B. Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 205	Forgotten pics added. Attached Images

31st January 2018, 07:27 PM	#6
Bjorn Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 188	It seems like a rather unique piece. Like Alan, the pattern reminds me of batik. To me, it looks like a type of sisik (scale) pattern. The attached 2 photos show modern-day batik cloth with sisik patterns. One is advertised as sisik bunga (flower sisik) and the other as sisik penangi (rainbow sisik). As it's not a standard pattern for a pendok, I would say it could have been made anywhere in Java. Attached Images

4th February 2018, 10:26 AM	#7
Paul B. Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 205	This Ceribon kris has a sizewise ( tall and slender) proper gandar which could fit the pendok without having to adapt it but actually not a needing accessory as it has a nice Timoho pelet would from itself. Attached Images

29th January 2018, 08:11 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,889	That is a very nice pendok. The rear face looks like a more or less standard lung-lungan motif, but the front face has a motif I have not seen and is not contained in current Central Javanese pattern books. When I get a chance I'll see if I can find it as a batik motif. I am not prepared to guess where it might have been made.

30th January 2018, 07:46 AM	#4
Paul B. Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 205	Sorry Alan, you mixed the sides up. Floral = front and batik looking pattern = rear side. The slighlty sloping rounded shape tells me so. It reminds me of a previous discussion about a pendok. Anyway, anybody else having a clue about the destination? Would like to match it with a kris in a proper way.

30th January 2018, 10:22 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,889	Yes Paul, in the hand it is possible to see the offset of the top of a pendok, in your photos I cannot see it, however, front or back is immaterial, what is material is that it is unusual and very nice.

6th February 2018, 06:24 PM	#9
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Considering the size and design of this nice pendok, I would agree that it probably originates from the Java North Coast (Cirebon area). Regards