XVI th century dagger ?

[Cerjak]

I would like to have opinion about this dagger . It look like to be from the XVI Century but I 'm not expert in those weapons..
I seems it could be used as a tool to repair armor or flintlock because of the small hammer and a kind of screwdriver you could see each side from the guard.
What do you think about this explanation ?
I hope that somebody already seen similar dagger.
Any comment will be welcome.
Cerjak

[Atlantia]

Hi Cerjak,
It seems to have began life as a rapier and been modified to a dagger.
Interesting piece, I agree about the tool mod's on the guard. Almost like a modern survival knife!

[Cerjak]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Hi Cerjak,
It seems to have began life as a rapier and been modified to a dagger.
Interesting piece, I agree about the tool mod's on the guard. Almost like a modern survival knife!

Hi Atlantia
Many Thank for your comment .
Do you think it could be from the16 th century ?

Kind regards

Cerjak

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Cerjak

Hi Atlantia
Many Thank for your comment .
Do you think it could be from the16 th century ?

Kind regards

Cerjak

I'd have thought it was 17thC, but that's just my guess.
I've been thinking about the 'turnscrew' and 'hammer' and I wondered if it might be for maintaining a musket?
It's a very interesting item. I am suprised there hasn't been more comments.
Something of the rapier family. Google some images and you can see the various elements represented.

I haven't found them all in one but there are so many variations.
I'd guess some transitional rapier.
Obviously your's had a knuckle bow.

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

... I've been thinking about the 'turnscrew' and 'hammer' and I wondered if it might be for maintaining a musket?...

Like those seen in plug bayonets, so called "flint-knapper" ...
(The plug bayonet by R. D. C. Evans)


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[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by fernando

Like those seen in plug bayonets, so called "flint-knapper" ...
(The plug bayonet by R. D. C. Evans)


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Hi Nando,

Absolutely. Excellent pictoral examples!

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

I'd have thought it was 17thC, but that's just my guess...

Oh, it sure is an early piece; and modified in the period ... perhaps from a broken blade, to be used as a belt weapon/tool by the the local (or) field smith.

Originally Posted by Atlantia

... Obviously your's had a knuckle bow.

Are you referring to that spot in the pommel ? No too low for a knuckle guard fixation ?
Perhaps Jean-Luc can tell us if it really is a hole for a bar penetration ...

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by fernando

Oh, it sure is an early piece; and modified in the period ... perhaps from a broken blade, to be used as a belt weapon/tool by the the local (or) field smith.


Are you referring to that spot in the pommel ? No too low for a knuckle guard fixation ?
Perhaps Jean-Luc can tell us if it really is a hole for a bar penetration ...

Hi Nando,

There is a hole in the pommel which I can't see being for anything but a bar/knuckle-bow.
The position is OK, not too low.

[Cerjak]

Originally Posted by fernando

Oh, it sure is an early piece; and modified in the period ... perhaps from a broken blade, to be used as a belt weapon/tool by the the local (or) field smith.


Are you referring to that spot in the pommel ? No too low for a knuckle guard fixation ?
Perhaps Jean-Luc can tell us if it really is a hole for a bar penetration ...

Fernando,
I 'm agree the idea that it was a rapier as previously said by Atlantia
The dagger should be with me for the end of this week I Hope WEe never know with the post office( isn't it Fernando)

So ASAP I will post new pics .

Regards

Jean-Luc