Persian Dagger

[RAMBA]

"A FINE 19TH CENTURY PERSIAN GOLD INLAID WATERED STEEL DAGGER, inlaid with gold with calligraphy, and hare carved decor to the hilt, 35cm."

This piece was sold last night at auction. I'm very interested as to its form and use. Seems to be of such a unique shape and construction that has me thinking it has a specific purpose.

Any capacity to translate the text would be good too.Thanks.

[Ian]

This is a beautiful small knife. I think it may well be older than 19th C as the blade seems to be wootz. Such a small knife could be a dagger, but its appearance looks more ceremonial to me. The blade does not follow traditional Persian weapons. What comes to mind is a circumcision knife. Circumcision was introduced into Persia at the same time as Islam. Other surgical purposes, such as cutting for urinary stones, might also fit. The shape of the hilt resembles some 18/19th C. European surgical scalpels.

Persian arms are not my area of specific interest, so just a guess.

[Tim Simmons]

At 35 cm it a big knife be waved around your private parts. I would think of animal sacrifice?

[mariusgmioc]

Hello,

To me, this looks like a repurposed shamshir blade fragment.

Have a look a koftgari with langet shapes.

[RAMBA]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Hello,

To me, this looks like a repurposed shamshir blade fragment.

Have a look a koftgari with langet shapes.

Interesting observation.

[Oliver Pinchot]

Considering the goldwork, the blade, whatever it may be, was intended to have a guard with langets, despite it's size. I've seen similar, they are not repurposed, simply unusual. It bears the classic inscription, "There is no hero like 'Ali, and no sword like Zulfaqar," so a surgical application seems unlikely.
The goldwork was done in the mid-19th century.

The grip is made up; the wooden block is decorated with the wristplate from an 18th century armguard. The notion of tourist trinkets is an ancient one in the Middle East and Central Asia. Britain and France, and later, Russia, maintained a presence in Iran for much of the 19th century. It may well have been fabricated as a gift or memento.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

At 35 cm it a big knife be waved around your private parts. I would think of animal sacrifice?

Hi Tim,

I was taking the 35 cm (about 13.7 in.) to indicate OAL, which would mean that the blade would be about 8–9 in. in length. That's probably bigger than most Jewish circumcision knives but I don't know what Persians used. Also, Jewish circumcision knives mostly have straight edges, whereas old Indonesian knives used for the same purpose tended to have curved edges (though not as curved as this knife).

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

... To me, this looks like a repurposed shamshir blade fragment. ...

Hi mariusgmioc,

To me the blade looks too thin and the curvature too severe to have come from the thickest part of a shamshir adjacent to the hilt.

[RAMBA]

Originally Posted by Ian

This is a beautiful small knife. I think it may well be older than 19th C as the blade seems to be wootz. Such a small knife could be a dagger, but its appearance looks more ceremonial to me. The blade does not follow traditional Persian weapons. What comes to mind is a circumcision knife. Circumcision was introduced into Persia at the same time as Islam. Other surgical purposes, such as cutting for urinary stones, might also fit. The shape of the hilt resembles some 18/19th C. European surgical scalpels.

Persian arms are not my area of specific interest, so just a guess.

I question the 19th C attribution and believe also it is earlier. Or parts of it. I was thinking a sacrificial knife to cut the throat of an animal from behind.