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21st August 2015, 11:30 PM | #1 |
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ID sabre
Hello! Please, help me ID these sword. This is the warrior from Argentina, 1817 year.
Maybe spanish Light Cavalry Sabre 1803 pattern? |
22nd August 2015, 12:00 AM | #2 |
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It looks like the classic "Blucher Sable" to me. The Prussians were making enough of them, or even War Surplus from Britain.
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22nd August 2015, 12:11 AM | #3 |
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Hello
I live in Argentina. The drawing is Eleodoro E. Marenco, a cartoonist of campers and millitares issues. Perhaps it is drawing not accurately reflect the modeloo, but English is the model 1796 or 1811 Prussian in their copies. European factories manufactured and exported large quantity to South American countries. Here it is known as bail handle and was the most simple and easy to produce model. Argentina not any own model tube until the end of the century. A body mounted safety of my city in 1950 still had this kind of sabers. Afectosamente. Fernando K |
22nd August 2015, 03:22 AM | #4 |
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The toe/drag difference of the scabbards is significant in differentiating between the Prussian and English sabres. With the painting information confirmed, it would definitely be representative of a Prussian sword.
In photographs, the length of the quilion, bend at the base of the knuckle guard and the ears of the backstrap are also easy points to distiguish between origins of manufacture. Cheers GC |
22nd August 2015, 09:18 AM | #5 |
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blucher sabre had a distinctly larger drag than the 1796 LC sabre. (see below)
trooper with 1796LC below for comparison. the argentine trooper's artist seems to put the widest bit of the blucher style drag on the wrong side tho. |
22nd August 2015, 10:48 AM | #6 |
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Thank you very much!
Can you tell me please other weapons that were used in the Andean army and in general in the War of Independence in South America? |
22nd August 2015, 12:56 PM | #7 |
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Are you an antique weapons collector, KraVser ?
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