Mediterranean knife?

kronckew · 29th January 2008, 08:24 PM

just picked this up on ebay, described as:
===========ebay item description==========
Antique Victorian Egyptian / Islamic design dagger. The dagger dates between 1880-1920 and measures 25cm (10 inches) long. The handle is made of what looks to be pieces of either wood or horn (or both). The blade has some slight corrosion to it (see photos) but otherwise the dagger is in good condition for it's age. blade 6 in.
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pommel end:

Ebay item link

looks more gaucho/spanish or 'mediterranean' to me.

spiral · 29th January 2008, 09:28 PM

Nice one Kronckew! But well Egypt is still Meditearainian

Bolster looks islamic to my eye.

Id say thats all horn rings on the handle.

Blade looks wootzy? But perhaps just old rust tracks? close up picks when you get it would be good.

Spiral

Battara · 29th January 2008, 10:47 PM

Another possiblity - an old Syrian piece done for the Victorian market?

The horn layers on the hilt and the brass work look Syrian-Lebanese to me.

RobT · 30th January 2008, 01:37 AM

Hi All,
I agree with Battara. I just looked at my two Majali Shams jambiyia and the butt caps on both (with the exposed tang) look very similar to kronckew's blade.
Sincerely,
RobT

kronckew · 30th January 2008, 06:33 AM

thanks, it does have the same overall shaped hilt as my little lebanese dagger:

i knew i'd seen that shaped hilt with a peened brass pommel plate somewhere.
the last weapon i bought that was listed as 'egyptian' was really a very nice dha, so i've learned to be a bit sceptical of 'egyptian'

Battara · 30th January 2008, 06:55 PM

This last one you posted is more recent. The other one is older perhaps by a century.

29th January 2008, 08:24 PM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,170	Mediterranean knife? just picked this up on ebay, described as: ===========ebay item description========== Antique Victorian Egyptian / Islamic design dagger. The dagger dates between 1880-1920 and measures 25cm (10 inches) long. The handle is made of what looks to be pieces of either wood or horn (or both). The blade has some slight corrosion to it (see photos) but otherwise the dagger is in good condition for it's age. blade 6 in. ===================================== pommel end: Ebay item link looks more gaucho/spanish or 'mediterranean' to me.

30th January 2008, 01:37 AM	#4
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 478	Syrian for me also Hi All, I agree with Battara. I just looked at my two Majali Shams jambiyia and the butt caps on both (with the exposed tang) look very similar to kronckew's blade. Sincerely, RobT

29th January 2008, 09:28 PM	#2
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Nice one Kronckew! But well Egypt is still Meditearainian Bolster looks islamic to my eye. Id say thats all horn rings on the handle. Blade looks wootzy? But perhaps just old rust tracks? close up picks when you get it would be good. Spiral

29th January 2008, 10:47 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,200	Another possiblity - an old Syrian piece done for the Victorian market? The horn layers on the hilt and the brass work look Syrian-Lebanese to me.

30th January 2008, 06:33 AM	#5
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,170	thanks, it does have the same overall shaped hilt as my little lebanese dagger: i knew i'd seen that shaped hilt with a peened brass pommel plate somewhere. the last weapon i bought that was listed as 'egyptian' was really a very nice dha, so i've learned to be a bit sceptical of 'egyptian'

30th January 2008, 06:55 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,200	This last one you posted is more recent. The other one is older perhaps by a century.