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1635-40
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I would say a dha
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a dha too
and behind an Indian bow with quiver? |
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Henk, Kubur thanks!
What are the earliest accounts about dha we know? May be it is Japanese tachi? ![]() |
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I doubt it is a Japanese tachi. Wrong type of mounts, fittings and hanger.
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At this time Japan was cut off from the western world but South East Asia was in contact with the Dutch, Portuguese, and English. It looks like a Dha to me too.
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I am not sure of the title and origin of this painting, but it certainly appears of the Dutch masters schools and in accord with the period.
This is most certainly a dha, and by the squared chape style probably Burmese or Thai but these regions at that time were of course under different national headings. It is interesting just how prevalent 'globalization ' was in these times, and Rembrandt was known for having quite a collection of arms and armour, often 'exotica' from these areas in the Dutch trade of the East Indies. SE Asia, in particular Viet Nam was regarded as Cochin China, and contact with these contiguous countries via Dutch factories in many of them including China proper, India and the many archipelagos would account for such items. Also interesting to see the dha and mounts in real time depiction establishing set period for the styling (though probably well established earlier). |
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additionally the japanese made court sword handles for sale to the dutch. mostly of copper or silver but with japanese style decorations. i believe there was even chinese made handles sold in poland/lithuanian in the 16th century. the whole "samurai sword" thing in south east asia well predates ww2.. there is examples of 16th century swords used in the philipines . thailand and java with japanese blades. europeans were no different .. if something looks interesting people will buy it and use it .. just like the sri lankan kastane swords taken to europe in that time. |
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Well noted Ausjulius,
The sword hilts fashioned in Japanese style in those alloys were termed 'shakudo' as described in Aylward (1945). I do believe that Chinese craftsmen were also brought into Polish workshops, I think Lvov, but need to find the reference (perhaps Ostrolski). Absolutely right, the European fascination with weapons exotica was prevalent in 17th and 18th centuries via the trade networks of the East Indies companies. |
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