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Old 8th September 2007, 01:26 AM   #1
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This Pedang has an interesting horn ensuite that is dark on one side and light on the other. I have never seen anything like this. Is it possible that somehow the sun can bleach horn? Or could it be something else?

The piece has a very powerful feeling about it. Feels like someone really treasured it.
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Old 8th September 2007, 07:33 PM   #2
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Bill that is a nice old piece you have lovely patina to. Here is one that I picked up years ago as one of my first ebay purchases.


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Old 8th September 2007, 07:38 PM   #3
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I was told by a dutch collector that the buffalo horn has variation in color.
The color goes from black, that we all know to green like the color of jade. The black horn is the most cheapest horn. The green horn is the most expensive part.
Although I'm not an expert on horn and colors I think the color is going from black to grey, then light brown and ends in green.
I've seen a balinese keris in the collection of this collector with a green horn scabbard and ukiran. A magnificent piece.
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Old 8th September 2007, 08:51 PM   #4
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Lovley piece Bill, Henks right buffalo horn varies in colour & often even within same horn, the redish, blonde, yellowish & green shades are much rarer & getting even more so today due to modern Indian & Philipeane farming methods. {genetic seltion, antibiotics, food additives & killed at an early age.}

Ive hade many kukri handles that were yellow or green on one side & black on the other. { as well as all green, all yellow etc.]

Often they are sold as rhino on kukri , pesh, Jambiya & Indonesian weapons,...... Buyer beware.... Still no Cities paperwork needed!

A horn importer told me that about 1 in 1000 Indian buffalo horn is blonde, I dont know whether thats right, its seems an approximate I guess, but it certanly seems like it from all ive seen..

Pre. 1930s colour variation seemed much commoner, from what I can see.

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Old 9th September 2007, 03:21 AM   #5
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SEVERAL YEARS AGO THE GREENIES IN AUSTRALIA DECIDED THE WILD BUFFALOW WERE NOT NATIVE AND SET UP A MUSTER. ALL THE ANIMALS THEY COULD CATCH WERE ROUNDED UP AND KILLED OFF REMOVING A SPECIES FAVORED BY HUNTERES. I TALKED TO ONE OF THE GUYS WHO WORKED THE MUSTER AND HE SAID THERE WERE SOME NICE BLONDE HORNS AS WELL AS THE USUAL BLACK ONES BUT MOST WERE JUST DISPOSED OF. I THINK THERE IS A PLACE NEAR THE AIRPORT IN DARWIN STILL SELLING HORNS SO IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE TO RUN DOWN A SET OF HORNS.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO DISPOSE OF THE WILD HOGS AS THEY ARE A LOT MORE DISTRUCTIVE BUT THEY BREED FAST AND ARE TOO SMART AND WILEY TO GET RID OF THEM ENTIRELY. INTRODUCED SPECIES CAN PLAY HAVOK WITH NATIVE LIFE ESPECIALLY IF RESOURCES ARE LIMITED AS IN MANY AREAS OF AUSTRALIA.
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Old 9th September 2007, 01:07 PM   #6
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Hi Bill, this is a very nice piece (love the lamination!!), but seems to me that doesn't fit the classification of Van Z. for a Pedang Lurus, seems more some kind of golok or something different....
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Old 9th September 2007, 02:37 PM   #7
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Hi Bill, this is a very nice piece (love the lamination!!), but seems to me that doesn't fit the classification of Van Z. for a Pedang Lurus, seems more some kind of golok or something different....
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Could be, I'll take a look at Van Z.

It was one of my first pieces and I really fell in love with it when I first got it from Rick at RSWORD. He had it on eBay and nobody bid his minumum -- about $200. This was several years ago, before the prices began their climb.

I emailed him and made an offer close to his minimum bid and he accepted. I was fascinated when I first opened the package. Somewhat by the different colors of the horn, but more so by the overall feel.

Just a really neat piece. Well loved by previous owners and now has a special place in my collection.
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