British silver army belt and pouch

erlikhan · 1st March 2015, 05:18 PM

Hi. I 've come along this belt in Istanbul. All of the pieces are silver hallmarked. I request a definition and a value assistance please (you can send PM for that)..

tanks a lot in advance.

Fernando K · 2nd March 2015, 12:57 AM

hello

I can only help you with quality metal, which is .925 (sterling), the city is Birmingham and lowercase K is the year 1808, the Z lowercase is 1823.

Fernando K

Ken Maddock · 2nd March 2015, 08:15 PM

Hi
No idea of value but just a bit of information
The crown on the box is for queen Victoria, reigned from 1837 ( the gold coloured cypher says VR)

Fernando has identified year as 1823 which would be William iv on the arrow part

And the badge with more rounded top crown looks to have GR with a v in the middle, he was reigning from 1910 to 1936, maybe my mistake in what I see though but it does look like this

Just checked kings own Norfolk yeomanry only formed in 1901 so it is GR V

So it looks as if there is a lot of chopping and changing going on
Looks nice overall but maybe it is a parts made piece, that I do not know
Regards
Ken

Shakethetrees · 3rd March 2015, 05:03 AM

The hallmark on the vent pick holder is for London, and is 20th century. I will have to get to my library to give you the correct date.

Ken Maddock · 3rd March 2015, 08:58 AM

Hi shakethetrees
Which component part is the vent picker
The arrow like objects?
Thanks
Ken
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Andreas · 3rd March 2015, 09:47 AM

It seems to be the shoulder belt and pouch of an officer of the Norfolk Yeomanry (The King's Own Royal Regiment). Their 1/1st Battalion fought at Gallipoli in 1915, which is probably how the belt found its way to Istanbul. This is consistent with the presence of George V’s cypher. The pouch is older, as the lid bears, as noted by Ken, the royal cypher of Queen Victoria. Maybe a family heirloom, the Norfolk Yeomanry was disbanded during her reign in 1849 and was raised again in 1901 by King Edward VII.
Ken, yes the vent picks (known as “prickers”) are the dart shaped objects.
Regards,
Andreas

1st March 2015, 05:18 PM	#1
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	British silver army belt and pouch Hi. I 've come along this belt in Istanbul. All of the pieces are silver hallmarked. I request a definition and a value assistance please (you can send PM for that).. tanks a lot in advance. Attached Images

2nd March 2015, 08:15 PM	#3
Ken Maddock Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Posts: 104	Hi No idea of value but just a bit of information The crown on the box is for queen Victoria, reigned from 1837 ( the gold coloured cypher says VR) Fernando has identified year as 1823 which would be William iv on the arrow part And the badge with more rounded top crown looks to have GR with a v in the middle, he was reigning from 1910 to 1936, maybe my mistake in what I see though but it does look like this Just checked kings own Norfolk yeomanry only formed in 1901 so it is GR V So it looks as if there is a lot of chopping and changing going on Looks nice overall but maybe it is a parts made piece, that I do not know Regards Ken Last edited by Ken Maddock; 2nd March 2015 at 08:26 PM.

2nd March 2015, 12:57 AM	#2
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 669	hello I can only help you with quality metal, which is .925 (sterling), the city is Birmingham and lowercase K is the year 1808, the Z lowercase is 1823. Fernando K

3rd March 2015, 05:03 AM	#4
Shakethetrees Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 363	The hallmark on the vent pick holder is for London, and is 20th century. I will have to get to my library to give you the correct date.

3rd March 2015, 08:58 AM	#5
Ken Maddock Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Posts: 104	Hi shakethetrees Which component part is the vent picker The arrow like objects? Thanks Ken .

3rd March 2015, 09:47 AM	#6
Andreas Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ionian Islands, Greece Posts: 96	It seems to be the shoulder belt and pouch of an officer of the Norfolk Yeomanry (The King's Own Royal Regiment). Their 1/1st Battalion fought at Gallipoli in 1915, which is probably how the belt found its way to Istanbul. This is consistent with the presence of George V’s cypher. The pouch is older, as the lid bears, as noted by Ken, the royal cypher of Queen Victoria. Maybe a family heirloom, the Norfolk Yeomanry was disbanded during her reign in 1849 and was raised again in 1901 by King Edward VII. Ken, yes the vent picks (known as “prickers”) are the dart shaped objects. Regards, Andreas