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Old 1st April 2024, 08:36 PM   #1
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Default Unusual sabers from West Africa

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Found this morning at the flea market, those two interesting swords. Obviously from West Africa, but from where and from which ethnic group exactly?


My theory so far is that they were made in Baoulé style by Toma / Loma craftsmen.


The only ethnic group that I could find in Western Africa that uses loop pommels are the Toma / Loma (examples : https://www.quaibranly.fr/fr/explore...au-et-fourreau ; https://www.quaibranly.fr/fr/explore...au-et-fourreau ; https://www.quaibranly.fr/fr/explore...au-et-fourreau ; https://www.quaibranly.fr/fr/explore...uteau-et-gaine).

Both of my sabers are very similar in style to some Baoulé swords, however, the construction doesn't really match : Baoulé swords usually have a shorter, heavier, blade , and a crown like pommel (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...man/baule1.jpg ; https://www.africanarms.com/images/b...rd-56-5-cm.jpg).

In fact, the construction more closely matches Malinké / Mandinka swords. However, the Toma / Loma are a sub-group from the larger Mandinka group.

Thus, my proposition is that those sabers are cross-cultural items, made in Baoulé style by Toma / Loma craftsmen. Those groups all live in the Guinea / Liberia / Ivory Coast zone, so cultural exchanges aren't too unexpected.


What do you think? Have you ever seen similar sabers?



Thanks in advance for your opinion! 🙂
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Old 2nd April 2024, 08:42 AM   #2
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Hi all!



Found this morning at the flea market, those two interesting swords. Obviously from West Africa, but from where and from which ethnic group exactly?


My theory so far is that they were made in Baoulé style by Toma / Loma craftsmen.


The only ethnic group that I could find in Western Africa that uses loop pommels are the Toma / Loma (examples : https://www.quaibranly.fr/fr/explore...au-et-fourreau ; https://www.quaibranly.fr/fr/explore...au-et-fourreau ; https://www.quaibranly.fr/fr/explore...au-et-fourreau ; https://www.quaibranly.fr/fr/explore...uteau-et-gaine).

Both of my sabers are very similar in style to some Baoulé swords, however, the construction doesn't really match : Baoulé swords usually have a shorter, heavier, blade , and a crown like pommel (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...man/baule1.jpg ; https://www.africanarms.com/images/b...rd-56-5-cm.jpg).

In fact, the construction more closely matches Malinké / Mandinka swords. However, the Toma / Loma are a sub-group from the larger Mandinka group.

Thus, my proposition is that those sabers are cross-cultural items, made in Baoulé style by Toma / Loma craftsmen. Those groups all live in the Guinea / Liberia / Ivory Coast zone, so cultural exchanges aren't too unexpected.


What do you think? Have you ever seen similar sabers?



Thanks in advance for your opinion! 🙂
Hi Yvain
Yes, West Africa, but never seen before maybe rare.
Found on African-weapons.com a Mandingo sword with a handle like your swords but different blade. Nice find.
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Old 2nd April 2024, 10:59 AM   #3
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Thanks Marc ! Indeed, Wolf-Dieter Miersch collection is a valuable source, here is some examples from his website that could be linked to my sabers :


A Mandinka saber

A Toma / Loma knife
And a Baoulé sword
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