Moro Kris

kino · 28th June 2006, 04:07 AM

This Kris has been residing in my collection for a few years now. I cleaned it and etched it with PCB etchant. For some reason the ganya and the elephant's mouth cavity won't take to the etchant. What do you forumites think, stainless steel, highly unlikely. BTW the lower portion of the elephant's mouth is copper. I saw another Kris with the same type of ganya, I believe it was Ibeam's. Overall length 28", blade 23.5". The last photo is of the blade before the final polish.

How about the hilt, any particular name? Maybe an Indo name?

As always all comments are welcomed and much appreciated.

Andrew · 28th June 2006, 04:32 AM

That's interesting! Is it possible the ganga is silver or silver plate, Kino?

nechesh · 28th June 2006, 05:18 AM

Now that's interesting.....and beautiful!

I wonder if it could also be nickel. I know it isn't affected by arsenic and lime on Indo keris. Perhaps it would resist PCB etchant as well. But Andrew has a point and it does look a bit like silver. Was the gangya tarnished before you etched?
The blade certainly looks Moro, but i have never seen this type of hilt before. At first look it (the hilt) appears distictly un-Moro. Do you think this is a re-hilted blade?

kino · 28th June 2006, 06:01 AM

Maybe I should have it assayed to see what the silver or nickle content is.
In Cato's book, pg. 61, a Kris with a similar type of hilt. I don't think it's a re-hilt.
Here is what it looked like when I first got it.

Ferguson · 28th June 2006, 11:23 AM

Wow. Outstanding piece.

Steve

Rick · 28th June 2006, 01:52 PM

If that gangya has silver in it or is silver it would turn black with an etch .
Suspect that it is high nickel content alloy .
The hilt reminds me of Borneo work without the inten .
Also , is it just me or is that a pretty skinny tang on this sword .

Could we possibly be looking at a genuine Borneo kris ?

28th June 2006, 04:07 AM	#1
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,001	Moro Kris This Kris has been residing in my collection for a few years now. I cleaned it and etched it with PCB etchant. For some reason the ganya and the elephant's mouth cavity won't take to the etchant. What do you forumites think, stainless steel, highly unlikely. BTW the lower portion of the elephant's mouth is copper. I saw another Kris with the same type of ganya, I believe it was Ibeam's. Overall length 28", blade 23.5". The last photo is of the blade before the final polish. How about the hilt, any particular name? Maybe an Indo name? As always all comments are welcomed and much appreciated. Attached Images

28th June 2006, 06:01 AM	#4
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,001	Maybe I should have it assayed to see what the silver or nickle content is. In Cato's book, pg. 61, a Kris with a similar type of hilt. I don't think it's a re-hilt. Here is what it looked like when I first got it. Attached Images

28th June 2006, 01:52 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	If that gangya has silver in it or is silver it would turn black with an etch . Suspect that it is high nickel content alloy . The hilt reminds me of Borneo work without the inten . Also , is it just me or is that a pretty skinny tang on this sword . Could we possibly be looking at a genuine Borneo kris ? Last edited by Rick; 28th June 2006 at 03:43 PM. Reason: More thoughts

28th June 2006, 04:32 AM	#2
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	That's interesting! Is it possible the ganga is silver or silver plate, Kino?

28th June 2006, 05:18 AM	#3
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Now that's interesting.....and beautiful! I wonder if it could also be nickel. I know it isn't affected by arsenic and lime on Indo keris. Perhaps it would resist PCB etchant as well. But Andrew has a point and it does look a bit like silver. Was the gangya tarnished before you etched? The blade certainly looks Moro, but i have never seen this type of hilt before. At first look it (the hilt) appears distictly un-Moro. Do you think this is a re-hilted blade?

28th June 2006, 11:23 AM	#5
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Wow. Outstanding piece. Steve