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Old 10th November 2018, 06:21 AM   #1
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Default warangka for identification

What about this warangka type.
From the one hand it looks like a Madura daunan model ( with broken wing) but it was labelled as 'possibly Malaysia'.
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Old 10th November 2018, 08:48 AM   #2
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Hello Paul,
Please show us the whole scabbard as the gandar is important for identifying the provenance.
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Old 10th November 2018, 06:34 PM   #3
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Hi Paul. Are you the new owner of this keris. We have been discussing it on a keris Facebook page where it was suggested that it is a Sumatran keris with (perhaps) a West Coast Jawa influence. No one has suggested a possible Malaysian connection there and from what i have seen of the blade, that seems most likely to be Sumatran.
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Old 11th November 2018, 01:06 AM   #4
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I am not going to guess what this might be, because it is a little bit unusual, and I'd really need it in my hand to support any guess.

However, to me, it looks very much like the ladrang type that starts in Tegal and runs all along the north coast into East Jawa.

Actually, when I saw the first example of this type it was introduced to me by a very well known collector who lived in Malang and who considered it to be an East Javanese ladrangan, I only found out much later that it could be found all the way through to Tegal.

If we strip it of the ornamental enhancements, what does the form look like?

If we consider the enhancement at the ri pandan, where do we often find that, or a similar, enhancement?
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Old 11th November 2018, 01:52 AM   #5
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Just to add some more information into the mix here are some more complete photos of the ensemble.
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Old 11th November 2018, 03:35 AM   #6
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OK, here's a guess:- North Coast Jawa, Pekalongan, or thereabouts, probably for a Chinese gentleman --- that's if everything belongs together from day one.
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