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It was great to meet so many of you in Baltimore this Saturday.
Some of you asked for handouts, which I never made, but here is a short summary of the "non-mandau-blades" I talked about: Banjarmasin/Negara (Malay): keris, jumbia, sadup (the straight dagger), Banjar parang, candong, beladah belabang ("ex-parang nabur") and pedang jenawi besar (the large straight sword"). Some of the characteristic features: gold, diamonds, dragon's blood (red), floral motifs and rosettes, bird hilts, djadwal ("magic squares"), exoticism and show off. Outside Banjarmasin (Ngaju Dayak): duhung (spear dagger), ilum (= sadup), dua matu bayu (double edged sword), parang negara (flat "mandau" with floral motifs). NW Borneo (Land Dayak, Malay, Melanau): latok/buko, latok sadap, pandat, pedang/senankas. NW Borneo (Iban): parang nabur ("the real one"), langgai tinggang, jimpul, tilan kemarau, duku/pedang. NW Borneo (Dusun): gayang (flat blade), duku/pedang ("piso podang"). NW Borneo (Murut): parapat ("ex-pakayun"), gayang. NW Borneo (Brunei Malay & Kadayan): klewang ("ex-sangkit"), pedang/senankas, pedang, keris, kris. And then the mandau also shows up here and there, too. Michael |
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Michael,
Thank you again for the excellent presentation you made to us at Timonium. Fascinating! Steve |
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I really enjoyed it Michael. Great presentation...and thanks again!
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It was great to see a good crowd at the forum gathering and Michael and also Jeff Pringle did a great job with their presentations. Kudos to you gentlemen!
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BOTH PRESENTATIONS WERE VERY INTERESTING AND GOOD. THE INFORMATION ON THE BORNEO WEAPONS WAS NEW TO ME AND THERE WAS A GOOD SELECTION OF EXAMPLES TO HANDLE. A VERY INTERESTING PRESENTATION THAT BROUGHT FORWARD A FEW NEW THEORYS ON THE EVOLUTION OF BORNEO SWORDS.
THE WORK DONE ON LEE'S VIKING SWORD AND THE EXPLANATION OF HOW IT WAS DONE WAS INTERESTING. IT SHOWED WHAT THE SWORD WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE ORIGINALLY AND WHAT HAPPENS DUE TO CORROSION IN ITS NATURAL STATE ALL ON ONE INTERESTING SWORD. AS USUAL GOOD COMPANY, PRESENTATIONS AND LOTS OF POINTY THINGS AT THE DINNER, THE ARMS SHOW AND AUCTION. A GOOD TIME WAS HAD BY ALL! ![]() MY THANKS TO ARTZI (ORIENTAL ARMS) AND LEE AND THE PRESENTERS FOR MAKEING IT ALL POSSIBLE. |
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Michael, thank you very much for making some sense of these cultures and their edged artifacts. Most enjoyable and informative.
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sadop/sadup is not ngaju but it belongs to Dayak Paser... I never heard dua matu bayu.. its definitely not ngaju language.. do you have any literature of picture about this "dua matu bayu"? |
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A bump to the top...as previously asked above, is there photos of the presentation?
Gavin |
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As I explained on the seminar dua mata bayu is not from any dayak language but is Indonesian. It roughly means two eyed wind, i.e. a sword that can cut from both sides (being double edged). Michael PS Gavin, I think all of the mentioned blades can be found if you do a search on this forum. My presentation was VERY heavy in size with all the pictures... |
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Thank you Michael,
I have reviewed many of your posts recently...I thought there might be some more items not yet seen or discussed. Gavin |
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Gavin,
Please check and if there is something I haven't posted let me know? If you find something I will attach a picture of it on this thread. Michael |
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Hi Michael.
Your most recent email answers all my questions. With thanks Gavin |
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