Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Ethnographic Weapons
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 10th December 2012, 07:28 PM   #1
Cerjak
Member
 
Cerjak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: FRANCE
Posts: 1,065
Default which language it could be ?

I hope that somebody could tell me which language it is ..
Attached Images
  
Cerjak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th December 2012, 07:35 PM   #2
Rick
Vikingsword Staff
 
Rick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,293
Smile

I will guess that this 'buss last saw action in Sumatra .
Maybe that will help with the script .
I expect a lot of those marks are talismanic in nature; but there is still something there to read .
Rick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th December 2012, 07:48 PM   #3
VVV
Member
 
VVV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,637
Default

Please show the rest, too.
In the center there are the seven seals of Solomon (= very famous pan-Islamic talismanic motifs).
It's strange that motif #2 is supposed to be #7. Otherwise they are in the proper order with the star (#1) repeated.

Michael (the sign resembling # stands for the angel Mika'il)
VVV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th December 2012, 07:54 PM   #4
Cerjak
Member
 
Cerjak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: FRANCE
Posts: 1,065
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VVV
Please show the rest, too.
In the center there are most of the seven seals of Solomon (= very famous pan-Islamic talismanic motifs).

Michael
you will find all the pics in my thread "Need id and translation for a big blunderbuss."
Please tell me more if possible about this blunderbuss marks

Regards

Cerjak
Cerjak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th December 2012, 08:10 PM   #5
VVV
Member
 
VVV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,637
Default

OK,

Here is a copy from Canaan. It's in German but it gives you some ideas. The main thing is that it is based on the symbolism of the number 7.

Michael

Reference: Canaan, T. 1914. Aberglaube und Volksmedizin im Lande der Bibel. Hamburg: L. Friederichsen & Co.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cerjak
you will find all the pics in my thread "Need id and translation for a big blunderbuss."
Please tell me more if possible about this blunderbuss marks

Regards

Cerjak
Attached Images
 

Last edited by VVV; 10th December 2012 at 08:54 PM.
VVV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th December 2012, 08:23 PM   #6
VVV
Member
 
VVV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,637
Default

Here I found a short explanation in French, too.
It's from Doutté and the square with the seals in is a version of the Latin square where, usually a formula or passage from the Qur'an, is repeated in such a way that the same symbol/word only occurs once in each direction.
If you combine the table from Canaan with the explanation from Doutté I think you will get most of it...

Michael

Reference: Doutté, Edmond. 1909. Magie & religion dans l’Afrique du Nord. Alger: Typographe Adolphe Jourdan.
Attached Images
   

Last edited by VVV; 10th December 2012 at 08:54 PM.
VVV is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.