Indian Beheading sword axe, just finished on eBay

katana · 25th June 2007, 07:09 PM

Not so certain whether this a 'genuine' execution sword.
Seems to have a Nepalese look about it, blade seems to have laminations and forging flaws.
Certainly has the dimensions and characteristics of this type of sword,
two handled hilt etc. I noticed a respected member of this Forum also bid ....I wondered what others have to say about it.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=018

spiral · 25th June 2007, 07:38 PM

Its a Ram Dao used for beheading goats & buffalos.

Occur in Nepal, Common in Bengal.

Spiral

katana · 25th June 2007, 08:04 PM

Thanks Spiral.....I suspected it was a form of Ram Dao, but I thought they tended to be 'shorter' and more ornate. Beheading animals....was this done just as a form of 'slaughter' (for food) or was this ceremonial ?

Battara · 26th June 2007, 02:36 AM

They were used for ceremonial purposes and often the eye on these symbolized Durga on the big ones who slayed the bull. She is a consort of Shiva. This particular one is for beheading things like doves. They come in various sizes. Origins? - Nepal for the most part.

spiral · 26th June 2007, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katana

Thanks Spiral.....I suspected it was a form of Ram Dao, but I thought they tended to be 'shorter' and more ornate. Beheading animals....was this done just as a form of 'slaughter' (for food) or was this ceremonial ?

In the Hindu religion all animals killed should be cleany beheaded, rather than throat cut or shot.

So the short answer is Both. All death should be cerimonial. Thats the respect for what you kill.

Spiral

Battara · 27th June 2007, 12:01 AM

Thank you Spiral, that is why they are so heavy for the job - they need to do the job in one swing. As far as the sacrifice is concerned, they get liberated.

katana · 27th June 2007, 04:57 PM

Thankyou Spiral and Battara,
I was unaware that the Hindu religion necitated the beheading of animals as the only method of slaughter. Thank you, another piece of information learned

Regards David

beoram · 28th June 2007, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiral

In the Hindu religion all animals killed should be cleany beheaded, rather than throat cut or shot.

So the short answer is Both. All death should be cerimonial. Thats the respect for what you kill.

Spiral

Though at least in some of the Hindu ritual texts, it is prescribed that the animals sacrificed be strangled or smothered to death -- so that the death is bloodless.

But in practice, I have only see the beheading method.

spiral · 28th June 2007, 12:35 PM

Thanks for the correction Beo.

Jens, yes the museam is rather amauratish, but at least they still have many great speicimiens. I thouroughly enjyed spending 2 days in it. Next time I go i will visit it again.

Spiral

25th June 2007, 07:09 PM	#1
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Indian Beheading sword axe, just finished on eBay Not so certain whether this a 'genuine' execution sword. Seems to have a Nepalese look about it, blade seems to have laminations and forging flaws. Certainly has the dimensions and characteristics of this type of sword, two handled hilt etc. I noticed a respected member of this Forum also bid ....I wondered what others have to say about it. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=018

25th June 2007, 07:38 PM	#2
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Its a Ram Dao used for beheading goats & buffalos. Occur in Nepal, Common in Bengal. Spiral

25th June 2007, 08:04 PM	#3
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Thanks Spiral.....I suspected it was a form of Ram Dao, but I thought they tended to be 'shorter' and more ornate. Beheading animals....was this done just as a form of 'slaughter' (for food) or was this ceremonial ?

26th June 2007, 02:36 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	They were used for ceremonial purposes and often the eye on these symbolized Durga on the big ones who slayed the bull. She is a consort of Shiva. This particular one is for beheading things like doves. They come in various sizes. Origins? - Nepal for the most part.

27th June 2007, 12:01 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Thank you Spiral, that is why they are so heavy for the job - they need to do the job in one swing. As far as the sacrifice is concerned, they get liberated.

27th June 2007, 04:57 PM	#7
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Thankyou Spiral and Battara, I was unaware that the Hindu religion necitated the beheading of animals as the only method of slaughter. Thank you, another piece of information learned Regards David

28th June 2007, 12:35 PM	#9
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Thanks for the correction Beo. Jens, yes the museam is rather amauratish, but at least they still have many great speicimiens. I thouroughly enjyed spending 2 days in it. Next time I go i will visit it again. Spiral