New old club

kronckew · 6th June 2014, 07:55 PM

new to me, old to the world. or so billed. i defer to the experts for their words of wisdom as to age & origin.

sold as: samoan or fijian, hardwood, 38 in. long 5.25 in. at the widest part of the 'blade', 1 in. carved grip tapering to the point. aged listed as 1900-1940.

more details when it arrives.

pictures to follow on arrival.

Linky to ebay auction

kronckew · 7th June 2014, 07:41 AM

to clarify any misunderstandings: i was a bit terse in the original post, preferring to wait until it arrived to wax more lyrical, leaving it open to misinterpretation.

1. new to me - i meant that as in i never had a club like that myself. did not mean to imply the club itself was newly made or a replica.*
2. old club. - yes, it's an antique, likely 1900-1940 as was listed. i was asking if it could be pinned down a bit more.
3. there was an added the question mark to the description on ebay as to the locational origin. i asked if anyone could pin it's origin down more closely is all. fiji and samoa being a bit different.
4. i like the club as shown and am eagerly awaiting it so i can hold it and love it and stroke it and polish it and brag about it. been looking for one like it for a while. i'm surprised it was not bid on by others, i was prepared to bid more if they had. this one was, i thought, prettier than the other on offer.
5. the foot in one of the vendor's pictures is a perfectly nice foot. it shows the scale of the item.
6. i will post the traditional in hand photos and add more dimensions and the weight after it arrives as it was not listed.

*- i have nothing but respect for the supplier and his other wares, collecting clubs is new to me so i have questions rather than answers, and want to learn more from those more knowledgeable. the suppliers blurb on ebay was a useful and honest appraisal of the item, but as i eagerly await it, i want to learn more. i called the flattened section the 'blade' because, while it is not a traditional metal blade, i don't know what else to call it, it's a 'blade' to me, the whole being a 'sword' club until someone corrects me.

VANDOO · 7th June 2014, 04:17 PM

I WOULD HAVE TO GUESS AT ITS ORIGIONS AND WOULD SAY LIKELY SOLOMON ISLANDS OR ONE OF THE OTHER GROUPS OF ISLANDS IN THE REGION OF NEW GUINEA. I WOULD ELIMINATE SAMOA AND FIJI. I WOULD SAY IT DOES LOOK MORE LIKE A CLUB THAN A TOOL BUT NOT HAVING IT IN HAND CAN ONLY GO FROM ITS APPEARANCE. THE WEIGHT AND FEEL OF A WEAPON IS USUALLY DIFFERENT THAN THAT OF TOOLS OR ITEMS ONLY USED IN CEREMONY OR DANCE. A NICE AND UNUSUAL CLUB.

kronckew · 11th June 2014, 04:19 PM

club arrived today, was as described. weighs 790 grams, about what my heavy suburi bokken weighs. length is just right for swinging about on foot without hitting the ground. would not want to get hit with this

manteris1 · 11th June 2014, 06:36 PM

I belive this is from the Solomon Islands.......................jimmy

6th June 2014, 07:55 PM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,183	New old club new to me, old to the world. or so billed. i defer to the experts for their words of wisdom as to age & origin. sold as: samoan or fijian, hardwood, 38 in. long 5.25 in. at the widest part of the 'blade', 1 in. carved grip tapering to the point. aged listed as 1900-1940. more details when it arrives. pictures to follow on arrival. Linky to ebay auction Last edited by kronckew; 7th June 2014 at 11:58 AM.

7th June 2014, 07:41 AM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,183	to clarify any misunderstandings: i was a bit terse in the original post, preferring to wait until it arrived to wax more lyrical, leaving it open to misinterpretation. 1. new to me - i meant that as in i never had a club like that myself. did not mean to imply the club itself was newly made or a replica.* 2. old club. - yes, it's an antique, likely 1900-1940 as was listed. i was asking if it could be pinned down a bit more. 3. there was an added the question mark to the description on ebay as to the locational origin. i asked if anyone could pin it's origin down more closely is all. fiji and samoa being a bit different. 4. i like the club as shown and am eagerly awaiting it so i can hold it and love it and stroke it and polish it and brag about it. been looking for one like it for a while. i'm surprised it was not bid on by others, i was prepared to bid more if they had. this one was, i thought, prettier than the other on offer. 5. the foot in one of the vendor's pictures is a perfectly nice foot. it shows the scale of the item. 6. i will post the traditional in hand photos and add more dimensions and the weight after it arrives as it was not listed. - i have nothing but respect for the supplier and his other wares, collecting clubs is new to me so i have questions rather than answers, and want to learn more from those more knowledgeable. the suppliers blurb on ebay was a useful and honest appraisal of the item, but as i eagerly await it, i want to learn more. i called the flattened section the 'blade' because, while it is not a traditional metal blade, i don't know what else to call it, it's a 'blade' to me, the whole being a 'sword' club until someone corrects me. Last edited by kronckew; 7th June 2014 at 12:16 PM.*

11th June 2014, 04:19 PM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,183	club arrived today, was as described. weighs 790 grams, about what my heavy suburi bokken weighs. length is just right for swinging about on foot without hitting the ground. would not want to get hit with this Attached Images Last edited by kronckew; 11th June 2014 at 05:20 PM.

7th June 2014, 04:17 PM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I WOULD HAVE TO GUESS AT ITS ORIGIONS AND WOULD SAY LIKELY SOLOMON ISLANDS OR ONE OF THE OTHER GROUPS OF ISLANDS IN THE REGION OF NEW GUINEA. I WOULD ELIMINATE SAMOA AND FIJI. I WOULD SAY IT DOES LOOK MORE LIKE A CLUB THAN A TOOL BUT NOT HAVING IT IN HAND CAN ONLY GO FROM ITS APPEARANCE. THE WEIGHT AND FEEL OF A WEAPON IS USUALLY DIFFERENT THAN THAT OF TOOLS OR ITEMS ONLY USED IN CEREMONY OR DANCE. A NICE AND UNUSUAL CLUB.

11th June 2014, 06:36 PM	#5
manteris1 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 114	I belive this is from the Solomon Islands.......................jimmy