Jimpul --- Comments?

Naga Basuki · 21st February 2005, 06:24 PM

Would like your comments --- Thanks, Bill

Justin · 21st February 2005, 09:27 PM

Beautiful sword.Of the few I have seen this is most likely the nicest.Congrats!

Ian · 22nd February 2005, 12:19 AM

Beautiful example all round. Bill, what would you estimate for the age of this one? The blade strikes me as being quite old, although obviously polished back to its bright state. I find these hard to date.

Ian.

CharlesS · 22nd February 2005, 02:30 AM

Gorgeous sword form top to bottom! I especially like the silver hilt fittings...obviously this bad boy belonged to someone of status, and was probably influenced by other Indonesian...maybe Sumatran??...silver work and style.

As for age, I got a great lesson on not assuming too much while watching the video series "Circle of Fire". In one episode Borneo and a particular group of Dyaks are being explored and recorded in the late 1970s. I drooled in amazement as several warriors put on a dance with gorgeous mandaus and jimpuls, but apparently not such old ones. I also noticed that they were poorly maintained and dirty and slightly rusty....this is a continuing source of frustration for me about Indo-Malay weapons. OUTSIDE of the keris, there seems to be little or no interest in the maintainence and upkeep of blades.

John · 22nd February 2005, 02:48 AM

A rare Jimpul and very very beautiful. I admire your taste and acumen Bill.

Conogre · 23rd February 2005, 12:38 AM

Is there any possibility that there are two different types (as in men's vs women's, not the jimpul and the traditionally shaped mandau) of these among some of the Dayaks?
I've seen several photos with women using what appears to be a mandau for cutting and splitting palm leaves, rather than the small knife and found it curious.
Likewise, in some articles a few years back about about a rather large uprising that resulted in many beheadings and mass evacuations of remote villages they kept making reference to old mandaus being "removed from the longhouse walls", with the whole situation sounding very much like some of the old Apache uprisings that resulted out of enforced reservation life.
Considering the Indonesian government's attitides about tribal peoples and enforced settlements, plus whispered rumors about genocide, it sounds very likely that a parallel situation is or has evolved, which might likewise explain the lack of value placed on old warrior weapons.
The piece that started this thread, by the way, is superb!
Mike

21st February 2005, 06:24 PM	#1
Naga Basuki Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Big old machine shop/foundry/warehouse in Atlanta GA USA Posts: 51	Jimpul --- Comments? Would like your comments --- Thanks, Bill Attached Images

22nd February 2005, 02:30 AM	#4
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Gorgeous sword form top to bottom! I especially like the silver hilt fittings...obviously this bad boy belonged to someone of status, and was probably influenced by other Indonesian...maybe Sumatran??...silver work and style. As for age, I got a great lesson on not assuming too much while watching the video series "Circle of Fire". In one episode Borneo and a particular group of Dyaks are being explored and recorded in the late 1970s. I drooled in amazement as several warriors put on a dance with gorgeous mandaus and jimpuls, but apparently not such old ones. I also noticed that they were poorly maintained and dirty and slightly rusty....this is a continuing source of frustration for me about Indo-Malay weapons. OUTSIDE of the keris, there seems to be little or no interest in the maintainence and upkeep of blades. Last edited by CharlesS; 22nd February 2005 at 01:46 PM.

21st February 2005, 09:27 PM	#2
Justin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 175	Beautiful sword.Of the few I have seen this is most likely the nicest.Congrats!

22nd February 2005, 12:19 AM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,200	Beautiful example all round. Bill, what would you estimate for the age of this one? The blade strikes me as being quite old, although obviously polished back to its bright state. I find these hard to date. Ian.

22nd February 2005, 02:48 AM	#5
John Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land below the wind Posts: 135	A rare Jimpul and very very beautiful. I admire your taste and acumen Bill.

23rd February 2005, 12:38 AM	#6
Conogre Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 371	Is there any possibility that there are two different types (as in men's vs women's, not the jimpul and the traditionally shaped mandau) of these among some of the Dayaks? I've seen several photos with women using what appears to be a mandau for cutting and splitting palm leaves, rather than the small knife and found it curious. Likewise, in some articles a few years back about about a rather large uprising that resulted in many beheadings and mass evacuations of remote villages they kept making reference to old mandaus being "removed from the longhouse walls", with the whole situation sounding very much like some of the old Apache uprisings that resulted out of enforced reservation life. Considering the Indonesian government's attitides about tribal peoples and enforced settlements, plus whispered rumors about genocide, it sounds very likely that a parallel situation is or has evolved, which might likewise explain the lack of value placed on old warrior weapons. The piece that started this thread, by the way, is superb! Mike