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Old 1st March 2013, 12:31 AM   #1
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Default Batak sword?

This one just ended by ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Nice-19...vip=true&rt=nc
I was outbid but think that the happy winner have get it for a very very good price, hopefully someone from the forum.

I think that it is a Batak sword but frankly said I never have seen something similar before. I would like to know if someone is able to enlighten me.
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Old 1st March 2013, 12:32 AM   #2
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Old 1st March 2013, 09:00 AM   #3
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Hello Detlef,

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I think that it is a Batak sword but frankly said I never have seen something similar before.
Sure, Batak: Pakpak tribe. Nice knife with blade in ladingin shape; need to check where I saw a similar hilt - will try to post a pic.

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Old 1st March 2013, 12:54 PM   #4
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Hi Detlef!

Killer sword bro - I love the hilt and fittings! The blade (lading, as kai says) and especially scabbard says Batak to me too, although I haven't seen a similar hilt in my (rather diminutive) collection of material on the Batak. Most often, I've seen the lading with a Babah Buya hilt. Love the color and structure of the horn - and is that a very cool native repair we see on the ridge?

I have no doubt that kai will be back with a photo of a match.


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Old 1st March 2013, 01:00 PM   #5
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...just clicked on the link and saw the price - holy crap that was cheap! Hope it went to someone around here?
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Old 1st March 2013, 01:13 PM   #6
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Very nice sword!
A pity you got outbid on this one...

I think the blade is a typicall amanremu blade.


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Old 1st March 2013, 11:09 PM   #7
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Hello Maurice,

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I think the blade is a typicall amanremu blade.
Yes, very similar. Some ladingin also come with this type of blade.

Note that this is small (blade 11.5 inches = 29 cm) - should handle more like a knife rather than a sword.

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Old 1st March 2013, 01:21 PM   #8
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Nice sword.

The hilt makes me think of lopah petawaran hilts. although the cutting edge in reversed on them.

The end cap of the hilt is a repair. Wonder if the shape and length of this cap is original, or was it longer, as with the Lopah Petwaran handles

can we call this a "hulu paroh blesekan" ?

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Old 1st March 2013, 11:19 PM   #9
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Hello Willem,

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The end cap of the hilt is a repair. Wonder if the shape and length of this cap is original, or was it longer, as with the Lopah Petwaran handles
What hints do you see for a later repair? From the pics, I believe this could be en suite with the ferrule.


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The hilt makes me think of lopah petawaran hilts. although the cutting edge in reversed on them.

can we call this a "hulu paroh blesekan" ?
Given the multitude of names for hilts from many of the ethnic groups all over N Sumatra, I'd guess that this quite distinct hilt did have a special name, too.

It seems quite possible that all these hilts with long protrusions developed from a common base/idea though!

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Old 1st March 2013, 11:00 PM   #10
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Hello Thor,

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and is that a very cool native repair we see on the ridge?
I believe that the seller is correct that there was a metal (probably silver) piece attached (with 2 brass pins) which is now missing.


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I have no doubt that kai will be back with a photo of a match.
Don't hold your breath though - I seem to remember seing something like this hilt but my active memory still refuses to give a hint...

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