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Dear All,
a week ago I succeeded in obtaining this blade. Alas, it isn't a work of art like some Keris Pandai Saras from forum archives, also material is (most possibly) average and so the state of preservation, with some deeper pitting. There are also welding faults. Yet I am very fond of this blade, and that's why you see so many bad (I'm sorry) pictures here ![]() Some questions: is this a blade from Patani (which I suppose) or Kelantan? Why, what are the differences? Is it possible to draw a general schema of development (in words of course), how features of ricikan have changed over the time? Thank you very much. |
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Sampir is made from wood, which resembles Trembalo to me, there isn't the structural "hardness" of Kemuning. Chatoyance is nice, yet the balance of forms is a little bit awkward? It lasted some time, till I understud the importance of parallel lines of the back of gonjo and bottom of sampir, like a frame.
Buntut is unfortunately missing. Hilt is actually a very nice one, Kemuning. |
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Hello Gustav,
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State of preservation may leave a bit to be desired; have seen more heavily corroded pandai Saras blades though. I think this will polish up nicely - have you tried to stain it? Regards, Kai |
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What you have there is a good Pattani Pandai Saras with a chevron quenched technique blade. The crosspiece looks kemuning to me. The sheath's shaft, of sena (angsana).
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What kind of buntut should this have? Wood or what?
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Thank you very much for comments.
Kai, his is how it looks after some days (careful) sanding, and two days in pineaple juice. I am to timid to do more polishing now (may be, when I will grow older ![]() Unfortunately I don't made pictures of the original condition, yet it was not a nice view. Alam Shah, I think, I understand what you mean by chevron quenched, I wondered about these lines. Could you please tell more about it? I have never seen such before. I will try to make better pictures of sampir. Battara, I think so. Bone or ivory one would be very slim, just a line. Will make a picture of a similar (yet existing) wooden buntut. |
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Hi Gustav,
You are going to hate me for this, but without being able to clearly articulate the defining factors, I'm going to say that the keris is most likely Pattani in origin. The hilt form is what strikes me as being very clearly Pattani. The blade too, though for a while, I was struggling to say that it is Kelantanese because of the thicker ganja. However, in the end, I think the Pattani features win out a bit more, particularly the "recessed" gandik style. The sheath is an interesting one. Some people tell me that it is the Pattani interpretation of the Riau sheath form. I don't know. This keris does have a similar look and feel to one I posted earlier - see the 2nd keris in this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=12828 |
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