Perplexing Mark On Flintlock Holster Pistol

[dana_w]

This Holster Pistol is almost 19 inches long. It weighs 2 lb and 12 3/4 oz. It has a cryptic mark on the lock that looks something like YZAGV (or YZACV...) that was stamped upside down. There is also a Crown over an S on the lock plate. Does anyone recognize this mark?

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[Marcus den toom]

Just a quick remark, the top jaw and jaw screw look like they came from a miquelet pistol. Not sure though it might just be the type of lock, but it caught my eye.

My guess would be a Swedish flintlock pistol, the pommel seems similar to the ones i have seen at Swedish auctions (labeled as Swedish).

Nothing concrete, but it is a lovely piece no matter what.

[dana_w]

Originally Posted by Marcus den toom

Just a quick remark, the top jaw and jaw screw look like they came from a miquelet pistol. Not sure though it might just be the type of lock, but it caught my eye.

My guess would be a Swedish flintlock pistol, the pommel seems similar to the ones i have seen at Swedish auctions (labeled as Swedish).

Nothing concrete, but it is a lovely piece no matter what.

You are very sharp Marcus den toom. The top jaw and jaw screw do look like they came from a Spanish pistol. I have the feeling this pistol was made in the Netherlands or Belgium, but who knows.

[fernando]

Hi Dana,
Let us see what knowledged members say but, you must be prepaired for those marks being meaningless .

[dana_w]

Originally Posted by fernando

Hi Dana,
Let us see what knowledged members say but, you must be prepaired for those marks being meaningless .

I'll try not to be disappointing if no one knows, but I've been really supersized by what I have learned here at the forum.

[corrado26]

This is a Spanish cavalry pistol M 1781 (after Juan L. Calvo, Armamentos de Munición en las Fuerzas Armadas Espanolas). Cock with ringscrew and its upper lip are original and not from a miquelet pistol. Its sideplate is very characteristic.
corrado26

[dana_w]

Originally Posted by corrado26

This is a Spanish cavalry pistol M 1781 (after Juan L. Calvo, Armamentos de Munición en las Fuerzas Armadas Espanolas). Cock with ringscrew and its upper lip are original and not from a miquelet pistol. Its sideplate is very characteristic.
corrado26

Thanks so much corrado26. Can you scan the page from Juan Calvo's publication for me? I wish more of Calvo's publications were in English.

[fernando]

Originally Posted by corrado26

This is a Spanish cavalry pistol M 1781 (after Juan L. Calvo, Armamentos de Munición en las Fuerzas Armadas Espanolas). Cock with ringscrew and its upper lip are original and not from a miquelet pistol. Its sideplate is very characteristic.
corrado26

Good shot, Corrado. It must be the same pistol present in Calvó's other work, Armamento Español en la Guerra de la Independencia, page 37. Only that this time he doesn't call it 'M 1781' but 'dated 1781' ... with a lock model 1753 of the French style.
But what troubles me in the example posted by Dana is that stamp on the lock. No rational lockmaker or arsenal would stamp a mark in the inverted position. This certainly was stamped afterwards, assuming this pistol is original. Also the lettering doesn't seem to make much sense .

[dana_w]

Originally Posted by fernando

Also the lettering doesn't seem to make much sense .

I hear that.

Do you have an image from Calvo's book Fernando?