Gaucho Knife!

Hombre · 17th February 2017, 10:42 AM

Just got this knife...This is my first Gaucho knife and I should really appreciate any information at all about it.... When do you think it was manufactured?

Best regards,
Stefan
Sweden

Ian · 18th February 2017, 07:32 AM

Hello Stefan:

I have a similar Argentine knife that was made in the second half of the 20th C (acquired it in the 1980s and it was probably made around that time)--and I think yours may be of similar age. Similar knives come up fairly frequently on online auctions and are still being made.

Ian.

ariel · 18th February 2017, 07:54 AM

I saw tons of them, mostly in silver, in every souvenir shop in Buenos Aires. They descend from Belduque, or Bolduque, a Spanish name for an old Dutch utility knives made in the city of Hertogenbosch ( Bois-le-duc).

Hombre · 18th February 2017, 08:56 AM

Thank you very much for your answers. I really appreciate it!
You can read "La Movediza industria Argentina" on the blade and if I understand it right that company closed down around 1963 so I was just hoping it was older.

Anyway; I am happy for it and shouldn`t mind at all to get more of this type of knife.

Best,
Stefan
Sweden

carlos · 18th February 2017, 10:19 AM

Good knife. The complete name of maker is LA MOVEDIZA INDUSTRIA ARGENTINA.
Best regards
Carlos

Rick · 18th February 2017, 04:44 PM

http://www.vikingsword.com/ethsword/facon/criollo.html

Chris Evans · 19th February 2017, 04:01 AM

Hombre,

Your's is a Creole knife, known locally as a `puñal' on account of its small false edge, and it is the most common type in use since the demise of the legendary large `facon' of the 19th cntry and earlier.

`Puñal' is a misnomer that equates with `poniard', a primarily stabbing weapon and a typology that this blade shape does not fit, being that of a working knife intended for cutting tasks. As to why the locals decided upon this name for these knives is not known.

The brand is that of `La Movediza' a factory that started cutlery production during WWII and finally closed its doors in 1963. However blades with this brand keep turning up and there is much conjecture in Argentinean circles as to whether these are unsold originals or later fakes trying to cash in on this iconic brand.

Because of material shortages during the war, the knives were made from recycled steel taken from scrap and their quality is said to be highly variable.

You may find these two threads of interest:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=movediza

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=movediza

Cheers
Chris

17th February 2017, 10:42 AM	#1
Hombre Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 232	Gaucho Knife! Just got this knife...This is my first Gaucho knife and I should really appreciate any information at all about it.... When do you think it was manufactured? Best regards, Stefan Sweden Attached Images

18th February 2017, 04:44 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Worth A Read http://www.vikingsword.com/ethsword/facon/criollo.html

18th February 2017, 07:32 AM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,203	Hello Stefan: I have a similar Argentine knife that was made in the second half of the 20th C (acquired it in the 1980s and it was probably made around that time)--and I think yours may be of similar age. Similar knives come up fairly frequently on online auctions and are still being made. Ian.

18th February 2017, 07:54 AM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I saw tons of them, mostly in silver, in every souvenir shop in Buenos Aires. They descend from Belduque, or Bolduque, a Spanish name for an old Dutch utility knives made in the city of Hertogenbosch ( Bois-le-duc).

18th February 2017, 08:56 AM	#4
Hombre Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 232	Thank you very much for your answers. I really appreciate it! You can read "La Movediza industria Argentina" on the blade and if I understand it right that company closed down around 1963 so I was just hoping it was older. Anyway; I am happy for it and shouldn`t mind at all to get more of this type of knife. Best, Stefan Sweden

18th February 2017, 10:19 AM	#5
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 738	Good knife. The complete name of maker is LA MOVEDIZA INDUSTRIA ARGENTINA. Best regards Carlos

19th February 2017, 04:01 AM	#7
Chris Evans Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 682	Hombre, Your's is a Creole knife, known locally as a `puñal' on account of its small false edge, and it is the most common type in use since the demise of the legendary large `facon' of the 19th cntry and earlier. `Puñal' is a misnomer that equates with `poniard', a primarily stabbing weapon and a typology that this blade shape does not fit, being that of a working knife intended for cutting tasks. As to why the locals decided upon this name for these knives is not known. The brand is that of `La Movediza' a factory that started cutlery production during WWII and finally closed its doors in 1963. However blades with this brand keep turning up and there is much conjecture in Argentinean circles as to whether these are unsold originals or later fakes trying to cash in on this iconic brand. Because of material shortages during the war, the knives were made from recycled steel taken from scrap and their quality is said to be highly variable. You may find these two threads of interest: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=movediza http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=movediza Cheers Chris