BEATIFUL KAMPILAN HILT

carlos · 9th April 2005, 09:16 AM

HI EVERYBODY!
I HAVE THIS KAMPILAN SEVERAL YEARS AND ALWAYS I HAVE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT THE MEANING OF THIS JINGLES BEELS AND THIS TAPE OF CLOTH IN THE HILT. SOMEBODY KNOW THIS?
THANKS
CARLOS

carlos · 9th April 2005, 09:20 AM

AND ANOTHER PICTURE.

tom hyle · 9th April 2005, 11:41 AM

Sweet; nice bells; thanks.

Spunjer · 9th April 2005, 01:18 PM

hi carlos,

the cloth might be an anting-anting, or amulet. also, i can picture someone wrapping the cloth on his hands so the sword won't slip. the bells reminds me of those t'boli hawkbells i saw in davao.

Ian · 9th April 2005, 02:01 PM

Carlos:

Nice example of a well maintained kampilan. It is unusual to see them with so much hair left on the hilt. The hawk bells are indeed reminiscent of the T'boli decorations, and are not standard Moro fare. The T'boli have traded with Mindanao Muslims for many years, so it is not surprising that hawk bells could end up on a kampilan.

The strip of material has been described as a means of binding the sword to the wrist, as Spunjer has said, but I have never found a good reference for such a use. Similar attachments appear on a few kris.

Interesting kampilan.

Ian.

tom hyle · 9th April 2005, 02:56 PM

Would an anting-anting have any heraldic/identificatory value? Is the pattern in some sense a "flag"? Of course, most "tribal" conflicts occur between groups who can readily identifyl each other by pretty nearly every aspect of their dress, equipage, and personal appearance, due to the intensely regional/ethnic variation one sees in so much of the old handmade stuff......but perhaps to mark a faction; a town? someone's bodyguards? etc? Really just an idea; not anything I've heard or have any specific reason to think is true..........

nosmo king · 10th April 2005, 06:15 PM

Thanks Spunger,Yes that is a Panabas that I own.It came from the collection of a Henry De Pue who collected from 1898 to the early twenties.The blade is a full 7/16'' thick at the base!! This one is a serious "chopper".Also sharp as a razor!!!! All original , never messed with.

nosmo king · 10th April 2005, 06:37 PM

Hi Spunger,Here's some pics:

nosmo king · 10th April 2005, 07:58 PM

OOps... sorry about the "g" spunjer.

ibeam · 10th April 2005, 08:57 PM

Carlos,
Here is another example of a Kampilan with tiger Bells. This was offered to me a few years back but passed on it. Really interesting that there are other examples out there.

Nosmo King,
Do you have other Kampilans you can share with us??

BTW, very nice panabas. Thank you for sharing pics.

tom hyle · 10th April 2005, 10:03 PM

The surfaces of the panabas seem to be crosshatched draw-filed, with forging dents and scale-pits left in if lower than the desired/defined surface plane, as common. Nice, particularly "tribal"/village quality looking.

9th April 2005, 09:16 AM	#1
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 737	BEATIFUL KAMPILAN HILT HI EVERYBODY! I HAVE THIS KAMPILAN SEVERAL YEARS AND ALWAYS I HAVE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT THE MEANING OF THIS JINGLES BEELS AND THIS TAPE OF CLOTH IN THE HILT. SOMEBODY KNOW THIS? THANKS CARLOS Attached Images

9th April 2005, 09:20 AM	#2
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 737	AND ANOTHER PICTURE. Attached Images

9th April 2005, 01:18 PM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	hi carlos, the cloth might be an anting-anting, or amulet. also, i can picture someone wrapping the cloth on his hands so the sword won't slip. the bells reminds me of those t'boli hawkbells i saw in davao. Last edited by Spunjer; 9th April 2005 at 01:31 PM.

9th April 2005, 02:56 PM	#6
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Would an anting-anting have any heraldic/identificatory value? Is the pattern in some sense a "flag"? Of course, most "tribal" conflicts occur between groups who can readily identifyl each other by pretty nearly every aspect of their dress, equipage, and personal appearance, due to the intensely regional/ethnic variation one sees in so much of the old handmade stuff......but perhaps to mark a faction; a town? someone's bodyguards? etc? Really just an idea; not anything I've heard or have any specific reason to think is true.......... Last edited by tom hyle; 9th April 2005 at 02:56 PM. Reason: "identificatory" is hard to spell if it's even a "word"

10th April 2005, 06:37 PM	#8
nosmo king Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 15	Hi Spunger,Here's some pics: Attached Images

9th April 2005, 11:41 AM	#3
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Sweet; nice bells; thanks.

9th April 2005, 02:01 PM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,197	Carlos: Nice example of a well maintained kampilan. It is unusual to see them with so much hair left on the hilt. The hawk bells are indeed reminiscent of the T'boli decorations, and are not standard Moro fare. The T'boli have traded with Mindanao Muslims for many years, so it is not surprising that hawk bells could end up on a kampilan. The strip of material has been described as a means of binding the sword to the wrist, as Spunjer has said, but I have never found a good reference for such a use. Similar attachments appear on a few kris. Interesting kampilan. Ian.

10th April 2005, 06:15 PM	#7
nosmo king Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 15	Thanks Spunger,Yes that is a Panabas that I own.It came from the collection of a Henry De Pue who collected from 1898 to the early twenties.The blade is a full 7/16'' thick at the base!! This one is a serious "chopper".Also sharp as a razor!!!! All original , never messed with.

10th April 2005, 07:58 PM	#9
nosmo king Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 15	OOps... sorry about the "g" spunjer.

10th April 2005, 08:57 PM	#10
ibeam Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 134	Carlos, Here is another example of a Kampilan with tiger Bells. This was offered to me a few years back but passed on it. Really interesting that there are other examples out there. Nosmo King, Do you have other Kampilans you can share with us?? BTW, very nice panabas. Thank you for sharing pics. Attached Images

10th April 2005, 10:03 PM	#11
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	The surfaces of the panabas seem to be crosshatched draw-filed, with forging dents and scale-pits left in if lower than the desired/defined surface plane, as common. Nice, particularly "tribal"/village quality looking.