Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Ethnographic Weapons
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 28th October 2023, 01:47 PM   #1
gp
Member
 
gp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 717
Default request for information on Zlatoust Yataghans

Would any of you know if there is documentation or literature on yataghans produced by Zlatoust ?

If positive, kindly requested to provide details, even if they are written in cyrillic Russian

What I could find, and little do I know , was that quite some were dated back to the Crimean conflict between the Ottoman and Russian empires.

The first 2 pictures are no yataghan but a nice shaska, the others are yataghans.

Thanks a lot for any input, most highly appreciated!
Attached Images
         
gp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th October 2023, 06:18 PM   #2
Turkoman.khan
Member
 
Turkoman.khan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2023
Posts: 106
Default

Hello gp
My friend from Russia sent me these photos and a link.
He asked me to tell you that the checker that you posted in the topic is a modern fake that has nothing to do with Chrysostom. The last scimitar also has nothing to do with Chrysostom.
My friend said that as far as he knows in Zlatoust, scimitars were made individually in different years. They were usually made as gifts or curiosities.

https://www.hermitagemuseum.org/wps/...c+armor/666282

https://www.hermitagemuseum.org/wps/...c+armor/666269

https://www.hermitagemuseum.org/wps/...c+armor/666294
Attached Images
      
Turkoman.khan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th October 2023, 02:05 AM   #3
gp
Member
 
gp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 717
Default

thank you very much !

would you know the titel of the book or publication and by whom ?
gp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th October 2023, 12:15 PM   #4
Turkoman.khan
Member
 
Turkoman.khan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2023
Posts: 106
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gp View Post
thank you very much !

would you know the titel of the book or publication and by whom ?
Attached Images
  
Turkoman.khan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th October 2023, 12:56 PM   #5
gp
Member
 
gp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 717
Default

thnx a lot again !


a nice pic, not of a yataghan but from the Zlatoust collection
and 2 links as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbZx9MfsUx8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7BXxzDfEVM
Attached Images
 
gp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th October 2023, 01:07 PM   #6
Turkoman.khan
Member
 
Turkoman.khan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2023
Posts: 106
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gp View Post
thnx a lot again !


a nice pic, not of a yataghan but from the Zlatoust collection
and 2 links as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbZx9MfsUx8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7BXxzDfEVM
Thanks for the links and photos. These are excellent examples of modern work from Zlatoust.
Turkoman.khan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th October 2023, 11:04 PM   #7
OsobistGB
Member
 
OsobistGB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 94
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gp View Post
Would any of you know if there is documentation or literature on yataghans produced by Zlatoust ?

If positive, kindly requested to provide details, even if they are written in cyrillic Russian

What I could find, and little do I know , was that quite some were dated back to the Crimean conflict between the Ottoman and Russian empires.

The first 2 pictures are no yataghan but a nice shaska, the others are yataghans.

Thanks a lot for any input, most highly appreciated!
The yatagan shown has nothing to do with the Russian Empire and the weapons factory in Zlatoust It was produced in Austria-Hungary for Dalmation Landwehr M1869
https://jatagani.hismus.hr/webe/hld/...i/b000168h.htm
.....I would like to see a factory-made weapon from the Tula and Zlatoust military factories for the Ottomans
OsobistGB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th July 2024, 10:48 AM   #8
gp
Member
 
gp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 717
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OsobistGB View Post
.....I would like to see a factory-made weapon from the Tula and Zlatoust military factories for the Ottomans
investigating the matter further, I found an old thread on the topic, which is quite interesting, # 24 and following

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10034
gp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th November 2023, 11:41 PM   #9
ausjulius
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: musorian territory
Posts: 422
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gp View Post
Would any of you know if there is documentation or literature on yataghans produced by Zlatoust ?

If positive, kindly requested to provide details, even if they are written in cyrillic Russian

What I could find, and little do I know , was that quite some were dated back to the Crimean conflict between the Ottoman and Russian empires.

The first 2 pictures are no yataghan but a nice shaska, the others are yataghans.

Thanks a lot for any input, most highly appreciated!
the first russian military shashka you show is a chinese made fake made in longquan in the last 10-15 years by the way
ausjulius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th November 2023, 10:47 AM   #10
gp
Member
 
gp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 717
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ausjulius View Post
the first russian military shashka you show is a chinese made fake made in longquan in the last 10-15 years by the way
thank you very much for the update!

Would you have a picture of the original one ?
gp is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.