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Old 20th June 2023, 08:04 PM   #1
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This (sea?)ivory handle is from the collection of a well known collector in Germany. It's IMHO a very nice and unusual handle but is it indeed a keris handle? A comparable handle is shown in Bob Hales book, page 138, pic. 328.
He writes that this is a keris handle from Sumbawa, Bima and that only two handles of this type are known! Anyway, would you agree with the origin? Approx.: 7 cm high.
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Old 20th June 2023, 08:14 PM   #2
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Here the hilt from Hales!
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Old 20th June 2023, 09:58 PM   #3
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Detlef,

I think I know the other hilt Hales mentions. Interestingly, the Pendokok on his example annd the Selut on yours isn't much like something from Sumbawa.
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Old 20th June 2023, 10:56 PM   #4
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Interestingly, the Pendokok on his example annd the Selut on yours isn't much like something from Sumbawa.
Thank you Gustav,

I have the same thoughts regarding the pendokok and selut. But both don't look original to the hilts IMHO. Can you share where the other example belongs to?

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BTW, the hilt in question looks like hippo ivory to my eyes.
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Old 21st June 2023, 12:04 AM   #6
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I do not really understand what is meant by "--- of this type---".

Over the years I have seen & owned keris hilts of this type, but not of the same execution nor material, as the ones shown here.

I am not able to offer a supportable opinion on geographic location of origin.

Is it a keris hilt?

I think probably yes, reason being that I have seen others like it, but as I have said, not the same execution.

It is probably not possible to give a solid opinion on whether or not this hilt was intended as a keris hilt unless one could actually have it in hand and form an opinion on whether or not it works as a keris hilt. It might be a hilt intended for, or adapted for use as, something else.

Are there any patterns of wear visible?
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