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What do you think that this set pic axe and war hammer.
you know the origin !! I did some research and it would otoman!!! thank |
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Salaams weapons 27 ~This subject is much deeper than it first seems.. What I find interesting is that weapons such as these continued to be carried well into the 20th Century; more as a badge of office for those they belonged to...The Sufi /Jewish Sect; spanning across the region and including Iran; see https://kavvanah.wordpress.com/2013/...ervishes-1922/ Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. ![]() |
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Could some of the parade axes that I usually associate with the Qajar dynasty actually been used by these dervishes ? They look very similar .
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I totally agree, it is not an old set.
![]() It's not Ottoman and it's not Qajar. May be a Turkish or Indian tourist set. I cannot say if it's an early 20th or even a 1970ties set... I'm sure some members will answer to this question. Sorry for that... Kubur |
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The problem with saying koftkagari is 1930- back is that it is still being made in traditional ways. I have seen it worked in morocco, Egypt , and 2nd hand India . I know of others who have seen the work done recently in turkey and Syria. I have watched black smithing work done in morocco. A lot of items out there are new or redecorated.
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For a broad outline see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dervish . The list of pictures shows various Dervishes in different garb...some with axes etc and one which is named as a Dervish Sword see https://www.pinterest.com/pin/7881368073626987/ See here Jewish dervishes Agha-Jaan Darvish and his brother, patriarchs of the Darvish family. Tehran, Iran, c.1922; http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JW4sWqPJbN...O0/s1600/1.jpg Another Dervish with a saddle axe; https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=c...ian+Dervishers Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. ![]() Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 16th August 2015 at 08:26 PM. |
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Thank you Ibrahiim al Balooshi for linking to some very interesting sites !
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![]() ![]() Please also see a partial report concerning the equipment worn and carried by Persian Dervish including weapons at http://www.academia.edu/11324900/Vis...n_Iran_part_1_ ![]() Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 18th August 2015 at 10:50 AM. |
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