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17th January 2009, 05:20 PM
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OTTOMAN PALA translation please
Hi everyone.This is the ottoman pala that I have.
I have some questions about it. 1.Can anyone translate the cartouch that it has?I know that this is difficult because the coftgari is worn out. 2.Is it wootz or something else? 3.Do you believe that the blade is ottoman or persian or ...... Thanks in advance Ilias |
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17th January 2009, 05:22 PM
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Just to add some more images
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18th January 2009, 02:34 AM
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What a beautiful piece. Shame some of the koftgari is missing.
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18th January 2009, 01:53 PM
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Quote:
 Please note the wootz: how many wootz Ottoman kilijes have you seen, folks? That's what I call RARE! |
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18th January 2009, 02:20 PM
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!!Woww!!
 Ilias: would you be so kind to provide us with some measures? One thing I never knew, is the thickness of the blade of this weapons at their base, not counting edge or T-spine. Is it heavy? Thank you for your attention. Regards Gonzalo |
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18th January 2009, 03:26 PM
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Thank you all for the good words you said about my sword.
Aslo Gonzalo about the mesurments I will provide them to you tomorrow but I can tell you right now the weight of the blade without the hilt and the guard. It is 650 gr.Do you think it is light enough or not? |
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18th January 2009, 04:47 PM
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Quote:
 may be some one else will complete ?  à + Dom |
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18th January 2009, 06:20 PM
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Great piece!
Interestingly I see a mechanical pattern or even acid etched (proximal) as well as wootz. Do you see a faint weld line? All the Best Jeff |
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18th January 2009, 06:47 PM
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Beautiful! Wonderful!!!
BREATHTAKING! |
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19th January 2009, 10:25 PM
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Dear Dom .Thank's for the translation.I know it is difficult to find out what it says.
Gonzalo the thickness of the blade at the base is 5mm and at the middle 4mm and the total length 87cm.I believe these are the mesurments you have asked me, if you want anything else I will be happy to help. Best regards Ilias |
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