Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Keris Warung Kopi
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 6th August 2020, 02:25 AM   #1
apolaki
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 160
Default Identifying 3 hilts

Hi, can anyone help me identify these 3 hilts and where they are from?
Attached Images
   
apolaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th August 2020, 03:23 AM   #2
Rafngard
Member
 
Rafngard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Minneapolis,MN
Posts: 340
Default

I'll leave a definitive argument to the experts, but I'm pretty sure these are all from Bali and all fairly recent.

Thanks,
Leif
Rafngard is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 6th August 2020, 03:48 AM   #3
A. G. Maisey
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,879
Default

All Bali style.

Can I have a look at the back of the top hilt please? He's probably Nawa Sari, but I need to see the back to be certain.

I cannot identify the other two.
A. G. Maisey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th August 2020, 04:05 AM   #4
apolaki
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 160
Default

Hi, here is the back side of the first hilt. If it is Nawa Sari, can you tell me more about who that is?

Do you know more about the names of the face less figures on the other two hilts? One is covered by long hair and the other is like an abstract faceless figure.

Thank you!

Quote:
Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey
All Bali style.

Can I have a look at the back of the top hilt please? He's probably Nawa Sari, but I need to see the back to be certain.

I cannot identify the other two.
Attached Images
 
apolaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th August 2020, 04:05 AM   #5
David
Keris forum moderator
 
David's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 7,113
Default

I agree with Alan that the top one is most probably Nawa Sari. I assume Alan wants to see the grain sheaf in the hand behind the back, but everything else about this hilt fits the commonly encountered design for Nawa Sari.
The hilt with the hair over the face probably doesn't represent a single figure, but i seem to recall story of leyak or ghosts that are know to appear in this form, so that is the direction i would investigate with that.
No idea on the really abstract one, but i do find it to be really cool.
David is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th August 2020, 04:40 AM   #6
apolaki
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 160
Default

Thanks all for your impressions! What about this hilt, who could it be representing?
Attached Images
  
apolaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th August 2020, 05:58 AM   #7
A. G. Maisey
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,879
Default

Yep, Nawa Sari.

For a long time, a lot of people believed that Nawa Sari had nine heads of rice in his hand (nawa = nine) in fact he has a pandanus flower in his hand.

There was Forum discussion of this not all that long ago.

See:-

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=nawa+sari
A. G. Maisey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th August 2020, 09:11 AM   #8
Jean
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,740
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by apolaki
Thanks all for your impressions! What about this hilt, who could it be representing?
IMO, this hilt depicts a prabu (king). This is a fairly common and standard style of hilt from Bali/Lombok.
Regards
Jean is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.