Moro Budiak, battlefield damage?

kino · 17th April 2016, 06:24 PM

A recent acquisition, a Budiak.
Just wanted to share photos of it. Hope you enjoy.

Spunjer · 19th April 2016, 02:39 AM

Kino, that looks pretty cool, bro. the angle is kinda odd tho. notice how the lower half looks pretty straight? it appears that it was done on purpose, as in the budiak was probably used as a target practice

is it laminated?

drac2k · 19th April 2016, 03:40 AM

Very nice piece ;having seen many items such as swords, guns, etc. with bullet holes and bullets lodged in strange and amazing locations, I have no doubt, that this was done in the heat of battle.

CharlesS · 19th April 2016, 02:12 PM

I would not want to be the hand holding that lovely budiak, if, indeed, a bullet struck it in battle.

I really like the brass mounts on this one.

David · 19th April 2016, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by drac2k

Very nice piece ;having seen many items such as swords, guns, etc. with bullet holes and bullets lodged in strange and amazing locations, I have no doubt, that this was done in the heat of battle.

Drac, could you explain how you could possible tell the difference between bullet damage done in the heat of battle and damage done purposefully, say in target practice? How would one look different from the other?

drac2k · 19th April 2016, 04:38 PM

It would be impossible to definitively state that this was done in the heat of battle and of course no one could possibly tell how and why the spear was shot, however the probability that this was done in combat,I feel far outweighs the "target practice theory."
I based my theory on similar war damaged items that I have seen from the civil war to WW2 Japanese swords.The spear that was brought back was barrack bag cut, so obviously, the soldier who brought it back felt it was of some importance to him;I think, more so than showing that he was a good shot.Finally, in a land full of coconuts, who is going to shot a spear for target practice.
In conclusion, let me state that this is only a theory and it could have been done in target practice.................I just don't think so.

Battara · 19th April 2016, 05:24 PM

drac2k, I completely agree with you for the reasons you sited.

I thought about bidding on this one, but then I remembered I don't have any money right now....

That being said, I like the brass on this one too. Kino, if only you could find out what battle it got shot......

Thanks for posting this and congratulations!

kino · 19th April 2016, 05:41 PM

I can't tell if it's laminated or not. The hot water test revealed nothing.

The brass mounts and bands really adds to the spear.

It could have been set up for target practice, judging where it was struck almost at the middle and at near the widest section of the blade but adding to drac2k's theory, during target practice it's tempting to keep shooting until the target is destroyed whether the target be paper, metal man, fruit or household appliances.

17th April 2016, 06:24 PM	#1
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,002	Moro Budiak, battlefield damage? A recent acquisition, a Budiak. Just wanted to share photos of it. Hope you enjoy. Attached Images

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kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,002	I can't tell if it's laminated or not. The hot water test revealed nothing. The brass mounts and bands really adds to the spear. It could have been set up for target practice, judging where it was struck almost at the middle and at near the widest section of the blade but adding to drac2k's theory, during target practice it's tempting to keep shooting until the target is destroyed whether the target be paper, metal man, fruit or household appliances. Last edited by kino; 19th April 2016 at 07:21 PM.

19th April 2016, 02:39 AM	#2
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Kino, that looks pretty cool, bro. the angle is kinda odd tho. notice how the lower half looks pretty straight? it appears that it was done on purpose, as in the budiak was probably used as a target practice is it laminated?

19th April 2016, 03:40 AM	#3
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,230	Very nice piece ;having seen many items such as swords, guns, etc. with bullet holes and bullets lodged in strange and amazing locations, I have no doubt, that this was done in the heat of battle.

19th April 2016, 02:12 PM	#4
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	I would not want to be the hand holding that lovely budiak, if, indeed, a bullet struck it in battle. I really like the brass mounts on this one.

19th April 2016, 04:38 PM	#6
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,230	It would be impossible to definitively state that this was done in the heat of battle and of course no one could possibly tell how and why the spear was shot, however the probability that this was done in combat,I feel far outweighs the "target practice theory." I based my theory on similar war damaged items that I have seen from the civil war to WW2 Japanese swords.The spear that was brought back was barrack bag cut, so obviously, the soldier who brought it back felt it was of some importance to him;I think, more so than showing that he was a good shot.Finally, in a land full of coconuts, who is going to shot a spear for target practice. In conclusion, let me state that this is only a theory and it could have been done in target practice.................I just don't think so.

19th April 2016, 05:24 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	drac2k, I completely agree with you for the reasons you sited. I thought about bidding on this one, but then I remembered I don't have any money right now.... That being said, I like the brass on this one too. Kino, if only you could find out what battle it got shot...... Thanks for posting this and congratulations!