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23rd June 2008, 01:45 PM
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Location: Paris
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identification
Hi! Everybody,
I'm just looking for the right names. Thank you for any help. Best regards |
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23rd June 2008, 10:13 PM
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Beautifiul pieces. Lovely wood on the top scabbard.
The middle sword, is the little knife detachable? Thanks for sharing. |
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24th June 2008, 04:43 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: OKLAHOMA, USA
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3 VERY NICE SWORDS
 I WILL HAZZARD A GUESS THEY ARE FROM BORNEO. THE FIRST ONE HAS A HANDLE DESIGN I HAVE SEEN ON SADAP A VARIATION OF THE PRANG LATOK, THE BLADE HOWEVER IS NOT IN THE NORMAL LATOK FORM. THE SECOND ONE WAS DISCUSSED ON THE FORUM A WHILE BACK BUT I AM NOT SURE IF WE EVER DECIDED WHAT TO CALL IT BUT IT IS A DEFINITE TYPE AS THERE ARE SEVERAL OWNED BY MEMBERS HERE. I WOULD LOOSLY CLASSIFY IT AS A FORM OF PARANG NYABOR. THE THIRD ONE APPEARS TO HAVE A BLADE CUT DOWN FROM A MACHETE WITH A HANDLE ALSO RESEMBELING THE NYABOR SHAPE. THATS THE BEST I CAN DO BUT THERE ARE THOSE ON THE FORUM WITH MUCH MORE KNOWLEGE IN THE FIELD, PERHAPS THEY WILL BE ABLE TO CORRECT ANY MISTAKES I MAY HAVE MADE AND PIN IT DOWN BETTER FOR YOU. GOOD LUCK
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24th June 2008, 08:32 AM
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1. Parang Pedang (cp. Shelford, 1901: http://www.jstor.org/pss/2842798)
2. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5387 3. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5074 |
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24th June 2008, 04:00 PM
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Location: Sweden
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Hello Cedric,
Kai's already answered your question but I would like to add that your Parang Pedang is more like a transition between a PP and a Murut Sangkit. See http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2149 I am especially thinking about the characteristic Sangkit and Pakayun brass ferrule and also the scabbard. Except yours I have only seen one resembling transitional parang and that's in the collection of one of our mutual Scandinavian friends.  How old do you estimate the (Iban) Parang #3 is? Michael PS Here are 2 "classic" PPs as a comparision - sorry about the bad pictures. |
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25th June 2008, 12:24 PM
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Location: Poole England
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Cedric
Three beautiful swords. Congratulations. Quote:
Kai, I have noticed this article before as being held by jstor. When I looked at it, it appears that you can only gain access from a university or institution site. Do you have any any better ideas ? There must be a wealth of knowledge in these old journals. Royston |
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21st September 2008, 01:46 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Paris
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Hi everyone!
As promissed, i Posted the swords of this collection in the swap forum to respect the rules, Best regards Cedric Le Dauphin |
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23rd September 2008, 08:35 AM
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Quote:
Most research libraries have standing subscriptions for journals, especially from their field of interest, and services like JSTOR. The most sensible approach is to grab a large USB stick and spend some hours in the next university library: From a public PC within the library you can browse and download articles of interest for personal use free of charge. Better equipped libraries may also have WLAN access from their premises. Regards, Kai |
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