One more koummya

corrado26 · 17th September 2017, 10:11 AM

I bought this IMO rather old koummya. The frontside is covered with thin silver plates partly decorated with red lines. There have originally been fife pyramids, three of them got lost during the past decades. The total length is 425mm. Comments are invited.
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mariusgmioc · 17th September 2017, 11:40 AM

How thick is the blade?

Did you check this link?

http://vikingsword.com/ethsword/koummya/index.html

From what I can see... I would say average example, at best.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 17th September 2017, 03:15 PM

Hit this http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=koummya

What is the purple material in the patterned front please?

Tatyana Dianova · 18th September 2017, 06:48 AM

IMHO, it is a nice old Koumiya from the end of the 19th to the beginning of the 20th century.
The fittings are brass and silver, decorated with black and red emaille. I like it!

corrado26 · 18th September 2017, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

What is the purple material in the patterned front please?

I think it is nothing else than red paint or enamel, I cannot decide it. The blade is 1,5mm thick.
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Kubur · 18th September 2017, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Hit this http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=koummya

What is the purple material in the patterned front please?

Hi Ibrahim,

You should know, you are our nimcha expert!
These koummya were enameled (red, yellow, green, blue).
Some of them cheaper were just painted (don't do like me one day I removed the paint by mistake)...
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...imcha+enameled

Kubur

motan · 18th September 2017, 08:47 AM

Hi, I am not a koummya expert, but I will try.
The upside: old, nicely decorated, good quality overall and definately not a souvenier, because it shows signs of use (the wear of the "ears" around the ring, re-sharpening of blade).
The downside: not one of the original traditional styles, but a mix of different styles with some elements that I do not recognise. For example, the pyramids are a feature taken from the "Chapeau de Genndarme" type. The blade is of reasonable quality, but it is quite thin and little less curved than in older types.
Because of all this, I would guess that it is not a 19th c piece, but an early 20th c, but still authentic, well made and nice to look at.

corrado26 · 18th September 2017, 03:33 PM

Thanks for all comments. The silver layers at the front side have been partly loose, so I took some superglew to fix them again. Hope that the purist here are able to accept this...........

))
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Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 18th September 2017, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi Ibrahim,

You should know, you are our nimcha expert!
These koummya were enameled (red, yellow, green, blue).
Some of them cheaper were just painted (don't do like me one day I removed the paint by mistake)...
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...imcha+enameled

Kubur

I wondered if it was Champleve ? I'm no expert...but if its only paint it rules out that particular querry... I have no idea what the colour scheme was if applied to Khoummya...which was why I asked....

17th September 2017, 10:11 AM	#1
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,204	One more koummya I bought this IMO rather old koummya. The frontside is covered with thin silver plates partly decorated with red lines. There have originally been fife pyramids, three of them got lost during the past decades. The total length is 425mm. Comments are invited. corrado26 Attached Images

18th September 2017, 03:33 PM	#8
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,204	Thanks for all comments. The silver layers at the front side have been partly loose, so I took some superglew to fix them again. Hope that the purist here are able to accept this...........)) corrado26

17th September 2017, 11:40 AM	#2
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,903	How thick is the blade? Did you check this link? http://vikingsword.com/ethsword/koummya/index.html From what I can see... I would say average example, at best.

17th September 2017, 03:15 PM	#3
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Hit this http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=koummya What is the purple material in the patterned front please?

18th September 2017, 06:48 AM	#4
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 695	IMHO, it is a nice old Koumiya from the end of the 19th to the beginning of the 20th century. The fittings are brass and silver, decorated with black and red emaille. I like it!

18th September 2017, 08:47 AM	#7
motan Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Jerusalem Posts: 274	Hi, I am not a koummya expert, but I will try. The upside: old, nicely decorated, good quality overall and definately not a souvenier, because it shows signs of use (the wear of the "ears" around the ring, re-sharpening of blade). The downside: not one of the original traditional styles, but a mix of different styles with some elements that I do not recognise. For example, the pyramids are a feature taken from the "Chapeau de Genndarme" type. The blade is of reasonable quality, but it is quite thin and little less curved than in older types. Because of all this, I would guess that it is not a 19th c piece, but an early 20th c, but still authentic, well made and nice to look at.