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Preserved at the arsenal of the Veste (fortress) Coburg, Northern Bavaria.
Please note the very rare feature of two dogs for the igniting pyrites being present, one of course serving as a reserve just in case that the pyrites in the other one breaks. It is also notable that the short upper arm of the outer mainspring for the wheel at the same time acts on the left dog! ![]() 'Nando, c'mon and teach me more! ![]() With my thanks to the unknown photographer who posted this on flickr.com. Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 27th March 2011 at 03:00 PM. |
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Oh man, you leave me without words; no kidding, i am speechless
![]() How do you find these things? ... And how do you expect me to teach you anything at all in this area? I could not even dissecate a single dog weellock ![]() Now, it would be fantastic if you found out how to follow the track of this magnificent specimen, as i don't have any clue, nor have i ever seen this picture. Bu the way ... why Portuguese? Is the photographer that says so? |
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No 'Nando,
It's just Michael the matchlock (and wheelllock ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm attaching scans of a characteristic Portuguese wheellock illustrated in Arne Hoff, Feuerwaffen I, 1968, p. 95f. I don't think this standard reference work was tranlated into English ... Hoff thinks this one might have been copied in Italy, an opinion from which I differ. For comparison, attached please find a characteristic North Italian combined wheellock and snaplock mechanism of ca. 1580: the outer main spring is similar to the Portuguese locks but the shapes of the dog and shell like wheel ornamentation are clearly variant (also from Hoff's book). Spanish and especially Portuguese wheellocks range among the greatest rarities. Rainer's book is not helpful as it covers only matchlocks. I'm pretty sure though he has some Portuguese wheellocks as well. Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 26th March 2011 at 07:53 PM. |
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He has also exhibited a few, the other day: . |
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Fine then - see the same dogs, springs and shell shaped wheel guards as on the gun from Coburg? They're all Portuguese, my dear friend!! ![]() ![]() ![]() Now ain't that great? Best, Michl Last edited by Matchlock; 27th March 2011 at 02:19 AM. |
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Hi Michael,
Interesting find as usual. Lovely firearm and workmanship. Unfortunately the view is clearly limited. Try as I might I am unable to find any single element that would enable me to definitely agree with a Cingalese origin. Similarities are there of course but since the view is limited, it is difficult to come to a clear conclusion. On the other hand the winged humans, scales in hand and the type of lions on the under side of the stock ... do they suggest a non oriental origin particularly, European? Interestingly, Arne Hoff in Dutch Firearms identifies a wheel-lock with a shell shaped design on the lock as a Dutch Firearm. See color plate II. Regards. P.S. Now you'd better make sure your flat is not bugged too. ![]() |
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I have dismantled hundreds of wheellocks, including their mechanisms, down to the tiniest screw (and have luckily managed to put them back together correctly ... ![]() m |
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And what is that couple tiny parts i see over there on your floor ? ![]() ![]() |
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![]() ![]() ![]() Btw, how did ya manage to install those hidden secret wide range cameras in my flat?! Well, there ain't no need telling me. You just got to know myself, my flat and collection at least as well as you do - and you sure earned it, my brilliant congenial rascal friend! Again: let's meet as soon as possible in my humble Zeughaus. Then two of us together could drive just another two hours to Northern Bavaria, kick that lousy friend of mine's ass together and save your fuse - now wouldn't that be just sorta like Don Quijote and Sancho Pansa fighting some stubborn North Bavarian wind mill?! Best wishes go out to a warm and comfortable Portuguese night, and my dreams will be full of your overwhelmingly and charmingly softly purring cats!!! Michl Last edited by Matchlock; 27th March 2011 at 03:00 AM. |
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