Leather bandolier for matchlock gun

eftihis · 7th March 2021, 03:41 PM

This was advertised as a 17th c european matchlock bandolier. I put it on discussion on teh european forum, but it was suggested that there is a strong possibility to be a non-european item, from a culture that was using matchlocks untill recently. Anyone recognise the style?

Ren Ren · 7th March 2021, 04:02 PM

What a fascinating topic! I'll watch it with pleasure.
I will assume with caution that this item was made in the south of the Arabian Peninsula.

kahnjar1 · 8th March 2021, 06:35 AM

Hi Eftihis,
Not a firm ID but wool stoppers were used in bandoliers from Afghanistan. One of your pics appears to show a wool stopper.
Hopefully Rickystl will come in on this as I know he has several bandoliers of different origins.
Stu

eftihis · 8th March 2021, 05:41 PM

A similar set, was sold some years ago from Italy with the following description: A Musketeer's bandoleer dating: 17th Century provenance: Europe Leather belt with brass buckle; provided with a leather purse and eleven wooden flasks for powder doses, held together with leather straps. Small defects and damages. dimensions: length circa 97 cm.

Kubur · 8th March 2021, 06:23 PM

Stu is 100% right
and it's not the first time that I see an Afghan item listed as medieval or European renaissance.
Please, look at mine.

mahratt · 8th March 2021, 06:30 PM

I agree with the participants who wrote that this belt is from Afghanistan.

eftihis · 8th March 2021, 06:47 PM

Hi Kubur, regarding yours, i have to contribute the following! However, the style of the containers on teh belt we discuss is quite different!

7th March 2021, 03:41 PM	#1
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 507	Leather bandolier for matchlock gun This was advertised as a 17th c european matchlock bandolier. I put it on discussion on teh european forum, but it was suggested that there is a strong possibility to be a non-european item, from a culture that was using matchlocks untill recently. Anyone recognise the style? Attached Images

8th March 2021, 05:41 PM	#4
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 507	A similar set, was sold some years ago from Italy with the following description: A Musketeer's bandoleer dating: 17th Century provenance: Europe Leather belt with brass buckle; provided with a leather purse and eleven wooden flasks for powder doses, held together with leather straps. Small defects and damages. dimensions: length circa 97 cm. Attached Images

8th March 2021, 06:23 PM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Stu is 100% right and it's not the first time that I see an Afghan item listed as medieval or European renaissance. Please, look at mine. Attached Images

8th March 2021, 06:47 PM	#7
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 507	Hi Kubur, regarding yours, i have to contribute the following! However, the style of the containers on teh belt we discuss is quite different! Attached Images

7th March 2021, 04:02 PM	#2
Ren Ren Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 374	What a fascinating topic! I'll watch it with pleasure. I will assume with caution that this item was made in the south of the Arabian Peninsula.

8th March 2021, 06:35 AM	#3
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,741	Hi Eftihis, Not a firm ID but wool stoppers were used in bandoliers from Afghanistan. One of your pics appears to show a wool stopper. Hopefully Rickystl will come in on this as I know he has several bandoliers of different origins. Stu

8th March 2021, 06:30 PM	#6
mahratt Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Russia Posts: 1,042	I agree with the participants who wrote that this belt is from Afghanistan.