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Old 23rd July 2013, 06:42 PM   #1
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Default Silver Filigree Work - Cleaning Methods?

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I have met some difficulties cleaning silver items with filigree work. As you may well know, filigree work has holes and whatever which makes it rather difficult to clean. Any tip on how to clean it?

I used some silver cleaning paste once, didnt like the result on filigree. The paste gets between the holes and spaces and is hard to remove. Although the paste is rather excellent for silver items that are more flat.
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Old 23rd July 2013, 11:41 PM   #2
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OK first of all, unless the silver is black or very brown, please don't use paste! Things like paste and Tarnex ( ) will only eat into the soft silver, even dull a nice finish.

Instead use a "Sunshine Cloth" which you may be able to get from a jeweler or a jewelry supply store, etc. Lots of elbow grease, but it may restore the damage and certainly will not scratch or eat into the metal. It is specifically made for silver, gold (not often needed), copper, brass, and other soft metals (not much for steel, platinum, etc).

Filigree is hard to clean as you know (I do it all the time) and some places within the filigree will not shine because it is beyond reach (even with special tools, some spots may still be tough to reach).
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Old 24th July 2013, 06:53 AM   #3
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Hello,

I have met some difficulties cleaning silver items with filigree work. As you may well know, filigree work has holes and whatever which makes it rather difficult to clean. Any tip on how to clean it?

I used some silver cleaning paste once, didnt like the result on filigree. The paste gets between the holes and spaces and is hard to remove. Although the paste is rather excellent for silver items that are more flat.

Salaams A.alnakkas See http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...8&page=4&pp=30 (109) The silversmiths here use these techniques.

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Old 24th July 2013, 07:55 AM   #4
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I notice that Battara suggests "Sunshine Cloth". I suspect this is similar to the cloth I sent you, so try that with a toothbrush to get into the filigree. At least the toothbrush does not have metal bristles. If you look at the filigree of that Dharia I posted recently you will see the results using this method. There was originally quite a bit of black tarnish in the recesses.
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Old 24th July 2013, 05:17 PM   #5
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Hello,

I have met some difficulties cleaning silver items with filigree work. As you may well know, filigree work has holes and whatever which makes it rather difficult to clean. Any tip on how to clean it?

I used some silver cleaning paste once, didnt like the result on filigree. The paste gets between the holes and spaces and is hard to remove. Although the paste is rather excellent for silver items that are more flat.

Salaams A.alnakkas~ The quickest way is with a brass brush ! which sounds agressive but it's not as the brass bristles which are softer than silver only takes away the silver oxidation and polishes the silver without a scratch. We often use lemon juice with the brush then wash off and dry the item afterwards.. Toothpaste and brush also works as do many modern cleaners and cloths.

The silversmith uses an enhanced method for example on stitched silver belts which are first cleaned in a solution called "sapun rita" (sapun means soap..see next para for how this is prepared) a smooth flat headed hammer is pressed firmly onto the silver decoration and pushed along the belt with moderate force...Burnished ... Cleaning the khanjar is a peculiar operation which sounds a bit majical ~

Sapun Rita is prepared by setting fire to a rita berry which when dropped into water disolves immediately forming a burnishing solution..into which the khanjar is dipped then brushed vigourously and given the mallet press treatment as above. It is a long lasting polish technique suited to filigree and needleworked silver stitching on Khanjar scabbard and belt.

I suspect that part of the idea in filigree work is not to even bother cleaning right down into the pattern which some would argue is part of the decorative technique and patina...

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Old 24th July 2013, 11:39 PM   #6
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I suppose that a toothbrush and lemon juice would be safe.

I disagree with the brass being softer than silver, especially if it is stirling or above. Coin silver is a different story and if made of coin silver or lower, then it may be safe with a brass brush. Brass is certainly better than steel.

In either case I did not mention those because I have seen folks who don't know what they are doing scratch and damage silver. If one has the experience and know how, then that is a different story.

If the sunshine cloth does not work, then the oxidation may need the brush work. Again be very careful.
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Old 25th July 2013, 06:21 AM   #7
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I suppose that a toothbrush and lemon juice would be safe.

I disagree with the brass being softer than silver, especially if it is stirling or above. Coin silver is a different story and if made of coin silver or lower, then it may be safe with a brass brush. Brass is certainly better than steel.

In either case I did not mention those because I have seen folks who don't know what they are doing scratch and damage silver. If one has the experience and know how, then that is a different story.

If the sunshine cloth does not work, then the oxidation may need the brush work. Again be very careful.
I agree totally. Keep metal brushes away, and for the reasons you mention. There is obviously a field of thought that considers that metal brushes are OK and we see the results too often, particularly on blades .
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Old 25th July 2013, 06:26 AM   #8
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thanks for the info guys. I shall put the pictures of the items I want to clean.. will go with your advice..

Pictures coming later today.
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Just for clarification - I am also a silversmith..........
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