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Old 12th June 2021, 04:00 AM   #1
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This is one Ive had for years, but really no idea what it is....the significance of the face etc. . Way not my area, so could use some help.
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Old 12th June 2021, 07:19 AM   #2
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Hi Jim,
You will have more success with the Kris / keris guys.
But I think it is a Pedang lurus.
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Old 13th June 2021, 05:57 PM   #3
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Yes, it's a Javanese Pedang Lurus.
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Old 13th June 2021, 07:03 PM   #4
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Yes, it's a Javanese Pedang Lurus.
Thank you, now I know what it is.
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Old 15th June 2021, 07:19 AM   #5
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Hi Jim,

What a nice piece and the face strikes me as very unusual on a pedang lurus. Such a clear representation of a human face on the hilt and scabbard seems antithetical to Muslim tradition, where abstract features are much more common. Perhaps this tradition applies more to keris than other Indonesian weapons, although Moro weapons use only abstract decorations of living creatures.

One possibility may be that your sword was designed for a foreigner.

I'm afraid I don't know the significance of a face on your sword and scabbard. Alan Maisey, Kai, Detlef, and others who have a better understanding of Indonesian weapons may have a clearer idea.

Sorry I can't be more specific.

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Old 15th June 2021, 09:14 PM   #6
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[QUOTE=Ian;263576]Hi Jim,

What a nice piece and the face strikes me as very unusual on a pedang lurus. Such a clear representation of a human face on the hilt and scabbard seems antithetical to Muslim tradition, where abstract features are much more common. Perhaps this tradition applies more to keris than other Indonesian weapons, although Moro weapons use only abstract decorations of living creatures.

One possibility may be that your sword was designed for a foreigner.

I'm afraid I don't know the significance of a face on your sword and scabbard. Alan Maisey, Kai, Detlef, and others who have a better understanding of Indonesian weapons may have a clearer idea.

Sorry I can't be more specific.

Regards,

Ian.[/QUO

Thank you so much Ian! So I guess this is quite an anomaly as suggested by the absence of response.
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