one more keris

chregu · 18th February 2010, 06:39 PM

hello together
since the Certificates have to be another keris.
am also looking for this piece all the information I can get, old, origin, style,
........
gruss chregu

danny1976 · 18th February 2010, 07:14 PM

Hi Chrugu,

This type is what the cal madura keris.

Maybe its brougt back in the 50,s by a soldier.

Regards,

Danny

Rick · 18th February 2010, 08:07 PM

The wrongko style is called Gabilan if I recall correctly .
Very nice carving .

Marcokeris · 19th February 2010, 06:15 AM

nice

sirek · 19th February 2010, 04:34 PM

i have patrem madura keris that has the same characteristics.

total length 31cm/12.2 in.
blade length 17cm/6.7 in.

it has 3 empu "thumbprints"

(comments are welkom)

GIO · 19th February 2010, 07:45 PM

Sirek,
nice old keris. Hilt and wrangka are worn out as we very seldom see.
Surprisingly the pendok seems to have no bruise.
Unfortunately finger prints are not visible.
The blade seems very rusted in the crack: I would definitely eliminate rust before seeing the blade destroyed.

brekele · 20th February 2010, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

The wrongko style is called Gabilan if I recall correctly .
Very nice carving .

Maduranese call Deng udengan / Urang urangan for this kind of warangka's style.

Amuk Murugul · 21st February 2010, 07:25 AM

Hullo everybody,

Brekele, a nice nick/handle. German or Eastern Java? If Eastern Java, does it bear any relationship to 'shining' and 'bamboo'? (Just curious

)

Best,

ronpakis · 21st February 2010, 08:38 AM

hello all,

it is probably part of a javanese earstud. a subang or suweng. these earstuds are put together from several parts. this looks like the ring with the stones around the central stone. see the photo. a 'screw' holds the parts normally together. many of them are torn apart for the stones. sometimes diamonds, intan, glass etc. i hope it (photo) is clear enough.

greetings ron

brekele · 21st February 2010, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

Hullo everybody,

Brekele, a nice nick/handle. German or Eastern Java? If Eastern Java, does it bear any relationship to 'shining' and 'bamboo'? (Just curious

)

Best,

This is other example of warangka Deng Udengan (Shape of shrimp) with central carved motif called Rangkerangan (shell & snail?). The hilt’s style is called Tumenggungan , It’s a symbol of Kuda Panuli (Panuli horse).

@Amuk Murugul : I stil dont get it really about your questions.

Sajen · 19th February 2010, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chregu

hello together
since the Certificates have to be another keris.
am also looking for this piece all the information I can get, old, origin, style,
........
gruss chregu

Hello chregu,

yes it's a Madura keris and the sheat form is called jurigan or gambilihan like Rick write. Keris like this have been discussed already some times here, search for, you will get some more informations. It's good possible that the keris older then from the 50's. Would be nice to see the blade with a fresh warangan again. Here a very similar keris from my collection.

Detlef

Rick · 20th February 2010, 12:47 AM

Nice examples guys.

I like the Gabilan scabbards; they are so expressive, almost over the top .
I love the detail in well done Madura carving .

A very interesting mendak Sirek; love the wear and the Iras wilah .

sirek · 20th February 2010, 02:21 PM

thanks for your comments

it is difficult to capture the "thumbprints" in a picture, (in the red circles)
maybay you can see it better on the picture taken of the side.

The medak cames with te keris, and because I never seen this form before I doubt about it in the first place if it was a real mendak.
But the cup-shape fits good on the hilt, so in my opinion maybe a local artist has given his own inspiration on this one.

Rick · 20th February 2010, 03:58 PM

That mendak is actually pretty unusual and nice in my opinion .
No matter that it is missing some stones .

Sirek, since you've had the handle off; what does the end of the pesi look like ?

sirek · 20th February 2010, 06:09 PM

this is how the peksi looks like:

the length is 5cm/ 2in.

David · 20th February 2010, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Sirek, since you've had the handle off; what does the end of the pesi look like ?

Wondering if it's got a hole in it's end Rick?
Thanks for pointing out the blade is a picit Sirek. You are right, it was hard to notice and i missed that the first time around. I really like this one, though i will second the suggestion that you wash the blade or at least eliminate the rust.

18th February 2010, 06:39 PM	#1
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	one more keris #3 hello together since the Certificates have to be another keris. am also looking for this piece all the information I can get, old, origin, style, ........ gruss chregu Attached Images Last edited by Rick; 19th February 2010 at 09:09 PM.

19th February 2010, 04:34 PM	#5
sirek Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 169	i have patrem madura keris that has the same characteristics. total length 31cm/12.2 in. blade length 17cm/6.7 in. it has 3 empu "thumbprints" (comments are welkom) Attached Images

21st February 2010, 08:38 AM	#9
ronpakis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 75	mendak hello all, it is probably part of a javanese earstud. a subang or suweng. these earstuds are put together from several parts. this looks like the ring with the stones around the central stone. see the photo. a 'screw' holds the parts normally together. many of them are torn apart for the stones. sometimes diamonds, intan, glass etc. i hope it (photo) is clear enough. greetings ron Attached Images

20th February 2010, 02:21 PM	#13
sirek Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 169	thanks for your comments it is difficult to capture the "thumbprints" in a picture, (in the red circles) maybay you can see it better on the picture taken of the side. The medak cames with te keris, and because I never seen this form before I doubt about it in the first place if it was a real mendak. But the cup-shape fits good on the hilt, so in my opinion maybe a local artist has given his own inspiration on this one. Attached Images

20th February 2010, 06:09 PM	#15
sirek Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 169	this is how the peksi looks like: the length is 5cm/ 2in. Attached Images

18th February 2010, 07:14 PM	#2
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Hi Chrugu, This type is what the cal madura keris. Maybe its brougt back in the 50,s by a soldier. Regards, Danny

18th February 2010, 08:07 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	The wrongko style is called Gabilan if I recall correctly . Very nice carving .

19th February 2010, 06:15 AM	#4
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	nice

19th February 2010, 07:45 PM	#6
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 313	Sirek, nice old keris. Hilt and wrangka are worn out as we very seldom see. Surprisingly the pendok seems to have no bruise. Unfortunately finger prints are not visible. The blade seems very rusted in the crack: I would definitely eliminate rust before seeing the blade destroyed.

21st February 2010, 07:25 AM	#8
Amuk Murugul Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kaboejoetan Galoenggoeng Mélben Posts: 460	Hullo everybody, Brekele, a nice nick/handle. German or Eastern Java? If Eastern Java, does it bear any relationship to 'shining' and 'bamboo'? (Just curious ) Best,

20th February 2010, 12:47 AM	#12
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Nice examples guys. I like the Gabilan scabbards; they are so expressive, almost over the top . I love the detail in well done Madura carving . A very interesting mendak Sirek; love the wear and the Iras wilah .

20th February 2010, 03:58 PM	#14
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	That mendak is actually pretty unusual and nice in my opinion . No matter that it is missing some stones . Sirek, since you've had the handle off; what does the end of the pesi look like ?