My Haladie

sailorjohn · 15th June 2010, 05:08 PM

I have, what I believe is, a Haladie. Digital photographs are attached. I obtained this Haladie in Lebanon in 1983. While Haladies typically come from Syria, Iran and Sudan, given the timing and location of my obtaining this one, I assume it is of either Iranian or Syrian origin. [edit]information about this specific piece. Thanks very much.

Rick · 15th June 2010, 09:04 PM

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Jim McDougall · 16th June 2010, 04:39 AM

Hi Sailorjohn,
I saw this interesting haladie posted elsewhere, and Im really glad you posted it here!! Welcome to our forum.
While awaiting posting the pictures, I will say that while the haladie is indeed found in Syria and in the Sudan, it is actually a weapon that appears to have come out of India and known to have been used by Rajputs.

In Stone, he does refer to this as 'the Syrian knife' but the weapon seems to have come from the madu madu of India, once made of a pair of buffalo horns and eventually using steel blades made following that shape.

The boldly etched 'thuluth' calligraphy on the blades of your example suggest that it is from the Sudan, where these and many edged weapons were decorated in this way from the Mahdist period and somewhat in the years to follow.

Let me know if I can help with pictures, send me a PM.

All the best,
Jim

Lee · 3rd July 2010, 12:29 PM

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Devadatta · 3rd July 2010, 02:29 PM

Seems for me Sudanese

Jim McDougall · 4th July 2010, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Devadatta

Seems for me Sudanese

Thanks for agreeing with me Davadetta, thats exactly what it is.

15th June 2010, 05:08 PM	#1
sailorjohn Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2	My Haladie I have, what I believe is, a Haladie. Digital photographs are attached. I obtained this Haladie in Lebanon in 1983. While Haladies typically come from Syria, Iran and Sudan, given the timing and location of my obtaining this one, I assume it is of either Iranian or Syrian origin. [edit]information about this specific piece. Thanks very much.

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Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,940	Hi Sailorjohn, I saw this interesting haladie posted elsewhere, and Im really glad you posted it here!! Welcome to our forum. While awaiting posting the pictures, I will say that while the haladie is indeed found in Syria and in the Sudan, it is actually a weapon that appears to have come out of India and known to have been used by Rajputs. In Stone, he does refer to this as 'the Syrian knife' but the weapon seems to have come from the madu madu of India, once made of a pair of buffalo horns and eventually using steel blades made following that shape. The boldly etched 'thuluth' calligraphy on the blades of your example suggest that it is from the Sudan, where these and many edged weapons were decorated in this way from the Mahdist period and somewhat in the years to follow. Let me know if I can help with pictures, send me a PM. All the best, Jim

3rd July 2010, 02:29 PM	#5
Devadatta Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 118	Seems for me Sudanese